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Presbyterian church opens door to gay clergy
Reuters ^ | June 20, 2006 | Verna Gates

Posted on 06/20/2006 4:14:32 PM PDT by RDTF

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To: RDTF
More appropriate alternate headline:

Presbyterian church opens back door to gay clergy

21 posted on 06/20/2006 4:55:28 PM PDT by Disambiguator (I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic.)
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To: RDTF
The new policy was approved on a vote of 57-43 percent among 500 church representatives at the biennial meeting of the Presbyterian Church U.S.A. It gives local church organizations more leeway in deciding if gays can be ordained as lay deacons and elders as well as clergy, provided they are faithful to the church's core values.

Funny. I always thought that any Christian church would look to the Holy Bible as a basis for its core values. Does this mean a Presbyterian Church can now ignore whatever parts of the Bible that it finds inconvenient with a lifestyle of sin? What's next? The six commandments?

Isn't is contrary to the Bible to seek spiritual leadership from those who openly flaunt their sins?

22 posted on 06/20/2006 5:03:43 PM PDT by SaveTheChief ("This one goes to eleven.")
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To: RDTF
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

1 Corinthians 6:9 (New International Version)
Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders

1 Timothy 1:10 (New International Version)
for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine


I wonder which parts of the above Bible verses the PCUSA does not understand?
23 posted on 06/20/2006 5:07:25 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: Dreagon

Very fitting verse, thank you.


24 posted on 06/20/2006 5:12:48 PM PDT by buck61
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To: Disambiguator

or closet door


25 posted on 06/20/2006 5:20:28 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: PeteB570

Whether you are Presbyterian, Episcopalian, or Methodist, all you have to do to register your complaint is to quit giving money to these renegade churches.

The same holds true for universities. As long as the money keeps flowing into the coffers, these churches and universities think that they have free reign to do anything they dang well please.

Cut off the cash, and when they squeal, tell them why you did it. You'll be surprised how quickly they'll quit playing their little PC games when they have no money in the bank.


26 posted on 06/20/2006 5:28:21 PM PDT by colonel mosby
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To: RDTF

How can you be a practicing Homosexual and be true to any Churches values.? have they never heard of adultery? Of Sodomy.

Dam its hard to be in a religion these days.


27 posted on 06/20/2006 5:33:21 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: RDTF

This is why I am no longer a practicing Presbyterian.


28 posted on 06/20/2006 5:45:27 PM PDT by rpellegrini
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To: Dreagon

Also see Pergamum


29 posted on 06/20/2006 5:52:04 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: RDTF

John Knox is spinning in his grave...


30 posted on 06/20/2006 6:01:14 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah" = Satan in disguise)
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To: mom-7

>Doesn't the Bible mean anything anymore?

Welcome to "Cum-ba-ya Churchianity". Check your brains at the door, and welcome to the party, have a nice day.


31 posted on 06/20/2006 6:37:14 PM PDT by ROTB
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To: TonyRo76

There seems to be a race to Perdition, between your church and my former one.

The Episcopals are leading by a mere nose.


32 posted on 06/20/2006 6:43:39 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: colonel mosby

There is a lot of money involved here. The righteous put the money in for generations in support of orthodoxcy. The peculiars want that money to spend on themselves principally and on their own social and quasi-religious agenda-- which is to say the provision of tax-free contributions made by good-hearted people which can be shifted, easily and soon, to the benefit of those whom generations have heretofore deemed strange or worse.


33 posted on 06/20/2006 6:52:24 PM PDT by mathurine (ua)
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To: RDTF

This is a sad day for me. I was baptized and grew up in the PC in Lynchburg, VA.

I wish the Lord would return and end the evil one's occupation.


34 posted on 06/20/2006 6:53:33 PM PDT by spower
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To: TonyRo76

Sheesh, my bad, you're Lutheran.

Let me amend. We're in the home stretch and there are THREE mainline denominations battling for the finish. It may be a dead heat.


35 posted on 06/20/2006 6:54:05 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: RDTF
deciding if gays can be ordained as lay deacons and elders as well as clergy, provided they are faithful to the church's core values.

If they don't fail the core value test by definition, the church has no core of any value.

36 posted on 06/20/2006 6:54:47 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once the leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: RDTF

Why don't they just get the process over with and admit they're not a Christian organization any longer?


37 posted on 06/20/2006 6:57:01 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: colonel mosby

Then the peculiars gain control of much valuable downtown property which they can mortgage or sell in the pursuit of their peculiar and tax-free agendas.


38 posted on 06/20/2006 6:57:32 PM PDT by mathurine (ua)
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To: mom-7
The Presbyterian Church cannot save itself. A year or so ago, the PC (politically correct) supported disinvestment from Israel.
Now, its revised language for the Trinity and gay clergy.
Any guesses what will be next?
39 posted on 06/20/2006 7:00:39 PM PDT by quadrant
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To: RDTF

I am a Presbyterian and we are holding a 24 hour vigal regarding this in deep prayer to follow the Bible, I have already told my church decons I will be leaving the Presbyterian church if this happens.


40 posted on 06/20/2006 7:00:44 PM PDT by proudCArepublican
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