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Ann Coulter Was Wrong
Accuracy In Media ^ | 6/13/2006 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates

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To: Sam Hill
Online stalking? ROFL

I'm delighted to be in the company of Hugh Hewitt who called her comments disgusting. Laura Ingraham who wasn't pleased with Ann's comments either and Cliff who is a good conservative will all be attacked by you now. As will good freepers.

Anyone who doesn't tow the party line that Ann is brilliant and SHOULD attack widows with baseless innuendo gets attacked here.
41 posted on 06/13/2006 3:16:45 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Mike Bates

<Ann Coulter is just too right-on even for many conservatives who are soooo afraid of being called "mean spirited". Well, I'm sorry, but here's one conservative whose give-a-damn is just flat busted, to steal a phrase.


42 posted on 06/13/2006 3:16:47 PM PDT by foghornleghorn
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To: derllak

Bingo!


43 posted on 06/13/2006 3:17:10 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Mike Bates

>>>How does Coulter know it to be true that, "I've never
>>>seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

Because she saw what she saw, and she is telling us what she saw?


44 posted on 06/13/2006 3:17:12 PM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: sinkspur

And you know Coulter has been dumped "so often" how? What are you, a gossip reporter now? Why the obsession with this woman with you?? Did she turn you down for something??


45 posted on 06/13/2006 3:17:21 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: Mike Bates
How does Coulter know it to be true that, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." There is no evidence whatsoever that those women enjoyed their husbands' deaths, and Coulter offers none.

What an absolutely assinine premise. The assertion that "I've never seen..." necessarily implies a subjective point of view. In other words, to her eyes these four women appear to be enjoying the benefits of their husbands' deaths. There is nothing to prove. It is solely Ann's interpretation. The author is too stupid to comprehend that. Now, if Ann had said, "These women are enjoying their husbands' deaths," then one could reasonably demand proof. Ann, however, deliberately couches her statements in the language of subjective opinion.

This author is making a bumbling effort to discredit Ann logically and, like most Lefties, fails miserably because hee doesn't even understand the concept of logic.
46 posted on 06/13/2006 3:18:35 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Sam Hill
I'm surprised frankly that such online stalking is allowed here.

LOL!! Stalking? She's a public figure. If she's going to open her yap, she's not above criticism herself.

You want FR to be a big cheering section for Coulter. There look to be lots of cheerleaders here, and a few dissenters.

You seem to want to silence the dissenters. Is that true?

And, George W. Bush has been the target of criticism of several posters on this website since the day he was inaugurated in 2001, yet they continue to post against him. Would you like to shut them up too?

Just how far do you want to go in silencing anybody you disagree with, Mojo?

47 posted on 06/13/2006 3:18:35 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Peach

I guess you missed the part where I mentioned that this has gone on for YEARS.

(TOW the line. LOL)


48 posted on 06/13/2006 3:18:36 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Darkwolf377
"Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths."

Is that so? Given that the Leftist Jersey Girls couldn't wait to stand on their corpses and use their deaths as a soapbox for political action, I would think Coulter is exactly right about how the little darlings "feel."

49 posted on 06/13/2006 3:18:46 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: RobRoy

oh wow, we had the same reaction! LOL


50 posted on 06/13/2006 3:19:31 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: KarlInOhio; Mike Bates; Darkwolf377
In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter.

That's what makes Rather and others in the MSM partisan propagandists and Cliff Kincaid of AIM honorable and respectable.

51 posted on 06/13/2006 3:20:26 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Steve_Seattle
She says a lot of over-the-top statements because they are over the top and to bring attention to what she is really saying.

If you or I had read the chapter without hearing the controversy, we probably would not have focused on that statement.

Her point is also that these women do seem to enjoy the result of the catastrophe in that they seem to enjoy the cause it has given them. Which would be fine if it meant doing something helpful - but instead it has resulted in them doing something rather awful that would result in many more catastrophes and many more widows. That is the obscinity that is far greater than any insult Miss Coulter could come up with or could ever achieve. Remember who the good guys are here, and don't forget the evil ones. The left brings up this controversy to confuse us.

They do it ALL the time: Speaker-elect Livingston had an affair a long time ago. So now he cannot criticize Clinton for perjory, obstruction, subordination, etc and he has to fall on his sword. And this isn't because the left pushed him to it but because the right would.

And here we go again - insisting that Lady Ann must fall on her sword, too, for saying mean things about women who would - intentionally or not - would turn this country into Mogudishu.

Remember guys - don't treat the good guys like you treat the bad guys.

52 posted on 06/13/2006 3:20:39 PM PDT by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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To: Mike Bates

[In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter.]



It's a bit too late to start whining about that!


53 posted on 06/13/2006 3:20:50 PM PDT by spinestein (The Democratic Party is the reason I vote for Republicans.)
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To: Mike Bates

This is a fair criticism. Ann Coulter engages in way to much ad hominem. She doesn't defend conservatism; she attacks liberals. The way she's doing it is pretty low-brow, too. Tactically, she sounds exactly like the venomous & the deranged on any kook-fringe leftist website; if she fights fire with fire here, she'll sound (and does) as bad and as crazy as they do. She hates liberals more than she loves Conservatism. And that's the rub: her real motivation is hatred (for them), and it shows.

Her discourse is loaded with sarcasm. It's as though she hears her own laugh track inside her head whenever she thinks she's really laid someone out in the sophomoric way she does. She thinks she's really funny. More often then not, she looks extraordinarily immature.

Too bad she doesn't grow up a little. She could be a lot more effective if she'd knock off this irresistability she has to be outlandish. The more cute she thinks she is when she's landing the verbal blows on others, the more it becomes clear she's a one note symphony. Her whole premise is: "I HATE LIBERALS". OK. We get it. Enough already.

To her credit: She has more Stones AND Brains than Sean Hannity. But she has nowhere near the intellectual firepower or communication skill of Rush Limbaugh. She could use more of the latter and less of the former.


54 posted on 06/13/2006 3:21:20 PM PDT by antonico
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To: Sam Hill

Freepers have argued various points of the conservative agenda, political candidates, etc., for years and years. Since FR's inception. That's a pretty uninteresting and unimportant aspect of your post.


55 posted on 06/13/2006 3:21:29 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: fr_freak

Exactly. As if there's some sort of "Enjoyment meter" once can hook into a person to derive an objective measurement of enjoyment levels. Coulter never claimed to have any such device, so her remark was merely an opinion of what she's observed. It wasn't stated as metaphysical certainty.


56 posted on 06/13/2006 3:21:32 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: Echo Talon

Heh, heh. Did you see my post 22?


57 posted on 06/13/2006 3:22:00 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: sinkspur
She also has no idea if the dead husbands were going to divorce these women.

You don't either.

58 posted on 06/13/2006 3:22:05 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: TheConservator
In your world, Ann's wrong (as you perceive her conduct) makes your (now acknowledged) slander of her right.

What slander? She makes a judgement that 9/11 widows are enjoying their husbands deaths, I make a judgement that her judgement is a projection based on experience.

You guys sure get pissy when Coulter's own methods are used against her.

59 posted on 06/13/2006 3:22:12 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Mike Bates

Since some people seem to not want to understand what 'enjoy' means...

Enjoy: To have the use of; benefit from; have as one's lot: "at one time the white elephant enjoyed immense symbolic importance in the East" (Richard Carrignton). The American Heritage Dictionary.

I don't know what emotions these women in question have had, do have or will have, but it's pretty clear (unless one doesn't want to see) that they have very much benefited from i.e. enjoyed their situations. Coulter is perfectly correct.


60 posted on 06/13/2006 3:22:15 PM PDT by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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