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Lawyer: Marine Denies Haditha Massacre
TBO.com | June 11, 2006

Posted on 06/11/2006 2:09:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The lawyer for a sergeant who led a squad of Marines during an incident that left civilians dead in Haditha, Iraq, says his client insists his unit was following military rules of engagement, did not intentionally target any civilians and did not try to cover up what it had done.

No one has yet been charged in the Haditha case, which centers on allegations that a small number of Marines from the 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment killed 24 Iraqi civilians - included unarmed women and children - on Nov. 19 after a roadside bomb in the town killed one of their fellow Marines.

Neal A. Puckett told The Washington Post in a story for Sunday's editions that Staff Sgt. Frank D. Wuterich, 26, told him several civilians were killed when his squad pursued insurgents firing at them from inside a house after the bombing.

He quoted the sergeant as describing to him a house-to-house hunt that went wrong in the midst of a confusing battlefield, but denying any vengeful massacre.

"It will forever be his position that everything they did that day was following their rules of engagement and to protect the lives of Marines," Puckett told the newspaper. "He's really upset that people believe that he and his Marines are even capable of intentionally killing innocent civilians."

The Post characterized Wuterich's version of what happened at Haditha as the first public account from a Marine who was on the ground when the shootings occurred, which it said has led to an investigation looking into possible murder charges against a half dozen Marines.

A separate investigation is examining whether Marines tried to cover up the shootings and whether commanders were negligent in failing to investigate the deaths when they were reported to them.

Haditha residents have said innocent civilians were executed, including some who begged for their lives before being shot.

But Puckett said Wuterich told him in initial interviews over nearly 12 hours last week that the shootings were the unfortunate result of a sweep for enemies in a firefight.

The Post said lawyers for two other Marines involved in the incident say Wuterich's account is consistent with what their clients have told them.

Gary Myers, an attorney for a Marine who was with Wuterich that day but not further identified, told the Post the Marines followed standard procedures when clearing houses, using fragmentation grenades and gunshots to respond to a perceived threat.

"I can confirm that that version of events is consistent with our position on this case," Myers told the Post. "What this case comes down to is: What were the rules of engagement, and were they followed?"

Kevin B. McDermott, who is representing Capt. Lucas M. McConnell, the company commander who was relieved of duty after the incident, told the Post that Wuterich and other Marines informed McConnell on the day of the incident that at least 15 civilians were killed by "a mixture of small-arms fire and shrapnel as result of grenades" after the Marines responded to an attack from a house.

The lawyer told the paper McConnell told him that he had reported the high number of civilian deaths to his superiors that afternoon and that within a few days the battalion's intelligence chief gave a PowerPoint presentation to higher-up Marine commanders.

"Everywhere up the chain, they had ample access to this thing," McDermott said.

Puckett gave this account to the Post, based on his interview with Wuterich:

Immediately after the roadside bomb, Marines noticed a car full of "military-aged men" near the bomb site who ran when ordered to stop. Marines opened fire, killing four or five men.

The unit subsequently came under fire and a corporal identified the shots as coming from a specific house. A four-man team, including Wuterich, kicked in the door and found a series of empty rooms before hearing people behind one door. They kicked that one in, tossed a fragmentation grenade into the room and one Marine fired a series of rounds through dust and smoke, killing several people.

Even though they realized they had killed men, women and children, they saw a back door ajar and believed insurgents had moved to a second house. The Marines moved to the second house, kicking in the door, killing one man inside and then using another grenade and more gunfire to clear another room full of people.

Still having not found the insurgents, Wuterich told his team to stop and headed back to reassess the situation with his platoon leader, realizing that a number of civilians had just been killed.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: hadiatha; haditha; marines; terrorirists; wot
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1 posted on 06/11/2006 2:09:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Who to believe? A Marine that was there in the action or that ex-Marine and current traitor john murtha?


2 posted on 06/11/2006 2:30:52 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Kaslin

This account still doesn't make me feel comfortable with what happened. Is this how war is? They go into a house and "clear" it because a marine saw " insurgent age men" run away and enter a house. Trust me I am not anti war or anti military. My own son will be going back to Iraq in the fall. Someone please help me understand why this is acceptable military action.


3 posted on 06/11/2006 2:45:06 AM PDT by heylady
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To: Tut; Jen's Mom

Ping


4 posted on 06/11/2006 2:46:05 AM PDT by Kaslin (Zarqawi: Rest in Pieces and may all your virgins look like Helen Thomas and Maddie Albright.)
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To: heylady

same SOP as in Fallujah as far as I can tell,, they were under ambush attack as far as they could tell,, if they had had an M1 tank they would have blasted the house in a million pieces and come out with the same result

what happened to the stories of lining people up making them kneel and blowing them away at point blank range?


5 posted on 06/11/2006 2:59:13 AM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Kaslin

BTTT


6 posted on 06/11/2006 3:12:17 AM PDT by AmeriBrit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION, IT INCLUDES TERRORIST SLEEPER CELLS!!)
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To: Kaslin

But Mrutha said the Marines slaughtered civillians in cold blood. Surely a decorated war hero like that would never jump to conclusions for political gain . ( /sarcasm )



7 posted on 06/11/2006 3:27:39 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (My Daughter, My Hero, My Soldier, My Friend)
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To: Kaslin

This is what happens when cowardly insurgents hide behind women and children.


8 posted on 06/11/2006 3:27:53 AM PDT by patj
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To: heylady
Is this how war is?

Yes. Bad things happen in war.
9 posted on 06/11/2006 3:28:27 AM PDT by Beckwith (The liberal media has picked sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: heylady
Unlike our cops in the US, the Marine sop allows firing on those who run away once ordered to stop. They can also chase them down.

Shots came from a house they quickly cleared and unfortunately some innocents were killed.

It is not the Marines fault that Baathist irregulars use the local civilian population for cover.

If Cpl Wuterich's version of events is essentially accurate, I expect our side to ream the likes of Murtha, Kerry, the Beast, old media, and the original purveyors of the lie. Several Marines careers have been destroyed and members of the squad are awaiting possible indictments. Our men are asked to do the near impossible every day, they should be given the benefit of the doubt.
10 posted on 06/11/2006 3:47:57 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: heylady

keep in mind that it is likely the insurgents
had an escape route planned in advance,
going thru several houses,
in effect using the residents of those houses
as human shields,
giving the marines a difficult choice to make.


11 posted on 06/11/2006 4:02:29 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: USS Alaska
Who to believe? A Marine that was there in the action or that ex-Marine and current traitor john murtha?

I was thinking the same thing but you beat me to the punch! I wonder if murtha would apologize if Haditha is proven a hoax. I doubt it.

12 posted on 06/11/2006 4:29:50 AM PDT by Toadman
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To: Kaslin

This case is coming apart faster than the Frat party accusations at Duke.

At Duke: No DNA? No problem White American males were present, case closed.

At Hadiatha: No proof? No problem. White American males were present, case closed.


13 posted on 06/11/2006 4:37:25 AM PDT by armydawg1 (" America must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: heylady
This account still doesn't make me feel comfortable with what happened. Is this how war is? They go into a house and "clear" it because a marine saw " insurgent age men" run away and enter a house.

I'd rather chase them down and kill them while they're off balance than to let them regroup to attack and kill again later. It is terrible innocents may have died, but I refuse to believe that our Marines lined up and executed them until it is proven beyond reasonable doubt that it did occur.

Thank you to you and your son. You for raising a fine young Marine and your son for serving.

14 posted on 06/11/2006 4:37:54 AM PDT by Toadman
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To: heylady

Mae Culpa... Thanks for raising a fine young serviceman, and thank him for serving :-)


15 posted on 06/11/2006 4:41:30 AM PDT by Toadman
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To: Kaslin
The blame for this incident needs to be placed at its source: those who initiated a campaign of guerrilla war.
If one fights along a fixed battle line - such as happened during Desert Storm - civilian casualties can be kept low.
But if one chooses to fight a guerrilla war of ambush and hide among the civilian population, civilian casualties will result.
Once one makes this choice, the responsibility for the consequences falls on the person making the choice.
No one compelled the insurgents to chose a campaign of guerrilla war; they chose it because they wanted it; and the responsibility is theirs.
Does this responsibility mean that the other side can roam through the countryside murdering people at will?
Of course not, but the vagaries of combat make it all but certain that incidents such as the one at Haditha will occur.
16 posted on 06/11/2006 4:52:45 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: USS Alaska
from another thread when the story broke,

Bump as a Marine (long inactive) myself I find it very hard to believe the worst of these reports. One thing I member from my days is the absolute importance all Marines put on the honor of the Marine Corps. No Marine would willing stain that honor. Execution style killings of women and children by any Marine is simply unthinkable. No freaking way. Bad stuff does happen, mistakes are made, war is hell. I will wait on the truth, which I suspect is far different then what I am reading in the MSM lately.

17 posted on 06/11/2006 4:55:10 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: USS Alaska
Who to believe? A Marine that was there in the action or that ex-Marine and current traitor john murtha?

Neither because both have their agenda. I'll wait for the official report from the current investigation that the Marine Corps is conducting.

18 posted on 06/11/2006 4:56:47 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Jen's Mom

I suspect the drive by Media will have a last second surprise guest on the Sunday shows today. None other than the human piece of crap John Murtha in full COA / spin mode.


19 posted on 06/11/2006 5:05:13 AM PDT by DAC22
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To: DAC22

oops CYA


20 posted on 06/11/2006 5:06:55 AM PDT by DAC22
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