A Game of Truth-or-Dare [Michael Reagan was molested by a camp counselor]

P-Fox Website ^ | 6/6/06 | Michael Reagan

[Antoninus]

Excerpt from the book Twice Adopted by Michael Reagan, son of President Ronald Reagan. Michael Reagan was molested as a child by his male camp counselor:

A GAME OF TRUTH-OR-DARE

Kids who have been molested can’t even express what happened to them. They don’t have the understanding or the vocabulary to put it into words. Big people think little seven-year-olds can just got o an adult and say, “Hi, Mom. Hi, Dad. I was molested.” Bud kids don’t know words like molested and sexual abuse and child pornography. They don’t know how to explain to their parents that they have been raped.

When I was molested, I knew that what I did was wrong, but I didn’t know why it was wrong or even what it was called. But I was scared to death that if anyone ever found out about it, I would be labeled. What would that label be? I didn’t know. I had never heard the word homosexual. But I knew that the label, whatever it was, would mean I was bad. It would mean that I had been touched by a man. It would mean I’d be hated and condemned for the rest of my life.

As I look back and remember the guilt and fear I went through at that time, I realize that this experience I went through relates to something our society is going through today, more than fifty years later. I’m talking about the controversy over same-sex marriage. As I write these words, it unfortunately looks like our society is on the verge of accepting gay marriage. Let’s look, for a moment, at what that means.

If same-sex marriage becomes accepted as having equal validity with traditional heterosexual marriage, what kinds of social pressure will our children and grandchildren have to face? The gay community will tell you that the reason they want to be accepted is that they are born gay. There is no evidence to support that claim, but let’s accept it for the sake of discussion.

Now, if homosexual marriage becomes accepted as the moral and legal equivalent of traditional heterosexual marriage, then a time will come in the future when our children and grandchildren will no longer have to be born homosexual to engage in homosexual behavior. Because homosexuality and heterosexuality are equivalent, sexual practice will become a matter of choice not orientation. Guys can marry guys, girls can marry girls, or anyone can marry the opposite sex if they choose – these choices will all be on an equal footing.

There will come a time, not too far down the road – and the beginnings of this trend can already be seen – when the gay community will make young people feel guilty about stepping into marriage with the opposite sex until they have tried it with the same sex once. You’ve heard of the game of truth-or-dare. It’s a popular party game among teenagers. They player must choose a challenge – to tell the truth (usually of a sexual or embarrassing nature) or accept a dare.

If our society goes down the road that I see ahead of us, then a lot of kids will be enticed into have a homosexual experience on a dare. They will be told, “How can you know if you’re straight or gay if you never tried gay sex?” And why shouldn’t they try gay sex? There is no stigma to it. Gay sex and gay marriage are the exact equivalent of straight sex and straight marriage. There will only be one response that carries a stigma, and that is the response called “homophobia.” If kids don’t at least try a homosexual experience once, they’ll be labeled “homophobic.”

What happens to your kids or grandkids after they try a homosexual experience on a dare? They will experience guilt and pain in the aftermath, just as I did. The second they have had a sexual relationship with the same sex, in their own minds and in the view of society, they will be labeled homosexual. They’ll never rid themselves of it. They will live with the guilt and the pain that I have lived with all my life.

That’s why today I can honestly say on my show, “I admit it; I am homophobic. If I wasn’t homophobic before, I am today. I have a great fear of a homosexual community teaching my grandchildren that it’s OK to be gay even if you don’t think you’re born that way.”

The book Twice Adopted by Michael Reagan is published by Broadman & Holman Publishers.

[Antoninus]

Just wow.

[Antoninus]

It must have taken incredible courage for Michael Reagan to write this passage.

God bless him for speaking the truth!

[Antoninus]

Here's the book this excerpt came from:

[OneWingedShark]

It must have taken incredible courage for Michael Reagan to write this passage. God bless him for speaking the truth!

Indeed, in fact I'm putting his book on my "to get and read" list right now.

[twigs]

Agreed. And I suspect that this is far more common than we might think it is. Which goes to show the danger of not condemning homosexuality for the adomination it is. These kids are not responsible for what happens to them like this and it may well feel good which will lead to confusion. But childhood IS confusing. We adults are supposed to lead them into knowing what is right or wrong regardless of temporary satisfaction or experimentation or feelings of guilt. Mr. Reagan is a VERY courageous man and right on target.

[gunnedah]

It is a lot more than wow. Homosexuality is an abomination and if there is any difference between them and a pedophile it is very little. The movement in America is nothing more than an indoctrination that is a rape on civilization. These people have so positioned themselves in the media,government,church and the walks of life that persuade and they come into contact with children at a young age and in a lot of cases parents never know.Children at certain ages have a very hard time saying no to authority or someone who is in a position to help them and when it happens they do not know which way to turn.This has a lifetime affect on them and once indoctrinated it is a serious problem.

[Antoninus]

Agreed. And I suspect that this is far more common than we might think it is.

Indeed. The animals who do this are becoming more brazen as well. Parents need to be more aware of the danger--and make it known far and wide that anyone who touches their kid will get their nads blown off.

We adults are supposed to lead them into knowing what is right or wrong regardless of temporary satisfaction or experimentation or feelings of guilt.

Amen to that. I feel absolutely no guilt when teaching my children right from wrong. And when the time is right, my kids are going to KNOW that homosexual activity is an abomination.

Mr. Reagan is a VERY courageous man and right on target.

This is also a testament to his strength as a man, through the grace of God, that he was able to overcome a childhood trauma that has shattered the lives of millions of others.

[D1X1E]

When I was molested, I knew that what I did was wrong
No Michael you were not the one who did something wrong. Its sad, even years later adults molested as children carry guilt.

[Antoninus]

No Michael you were not the one who did something wrong. Its sad, even years later adults molested as children carry guilt.

He was probably tricked into doing something. That's how these scum operate--so this way, it almost seems like the victim was complicit in the act. All you have to do is watch how Michael Jackson groomed his little "friends." It really is despicable. Individuals caught doing this really do need to face harsh justice.

[ravingnutter]

There will come a time, not too far down the road – and the beginnings of this trend can already be seen – when the gay community will make young people feel guilty about stepping into marriage with the opposite sex until they have tried it with the same sex once.

That time has already arrived...

School official suspended for sex questionnaire

One of the questions was:

5. If you have never slept with a member of your own sex, is it possible that you might be gay if you tried it?

Those questions are posted in #8 on that thread. From that article:

The questionnaire was developed in 1977 by a prominent gay psychologist. Its intended purpose is not for use as a survey, but to sensitize people to questions often faced by non-heterosexuals and to spur discussion.

[newgeezer]

I'd sure like to see our resident "tolerance" crowd try to answer this one.

[Antoninus]

I'd sure like to see our resident "tolerance" crowd try to answer this one.

Somehow, I don't think they will. They avoid threads like this one like the plague.

[Antoninus]

The questionnaire was developed in 1977 by a prominent gay psychologist. Its intended purpose is not for use as a survey, but to sensitize people to questions often faced by non-heterosexuals and to spur discussion.

Kind of like a push-poll. Isn't it lovely that these scoundrels feel the need to insinuate sodomy into the lives of other people's children?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

It has never made sense to me,

1) How MR "knew" it was wrong or that he would be "labeled" for something he'd never heard of? He must have heard something in order to create the conflict, unless he is saying that children are born "knowing" something about molestation and homosexuality that also happens to be incorrect.

2) How he blamed himself for decades for something done by someone else?

That therapists say these happen still doesn't explain it.

Also, doesn't his explanation of his problem with being molested, and its being "wrong" because of the abnormality of homosexuality, let heterosexual molestation off the hook since it is based not on something inately against nature but on an arbitrary and variable legal age line?

[50sDad]

I've known three homosexual men in about forty years. Two of them have cut ties with me in and absolute hissy fit because without disapproving of them, I disapproved of what they did (after they brought it up and tried to get my approval.) These were all guys I knew in high school who went over to play for the other team later in life, all from broken, divorced homes with a weak or overbearing father figure.

Anyway, the one who was openly gay in high school once told me "the Gay movement isn't after your kids." I'd laugh if it wasn't so serious. Of course the homosexuals are after my kids. Every one of those guys had to have been recruited by somebody for them to first try the lifestyle.

[Antoninus]

1) How MR "knew" it was wrong or that he would be "labeled" for something he'd never heard of? He must have heard something in order to create the conflict, unless he is saying that children are born "knowing" something about molestation and homosexuality that also happens to be incorrect.

Since he doesn't provide the details, I can't answer that question for him. Honestly, I don't want to know the details. I would say that all people are created with an inborn knowledge of right and wrong (you remember--the Book of Genesis?) I can recall finding a Playboy stashed under some shrubs when I was 9. When I looked at it, I knew it was wrong even though I had no idea what pornography was or why it was wrong to look at it. I'm guessing it's the same principle at work in Mike Reagan's case.

2) How he blamed himself for decades for something done by someone else?

This is not uncommon at all. Rape victims blame themselves all the time. It's apparently a common psychological reaction to a sexual trauma.

Also, doesn't his explanation of his problem with being molested, and its being "wrong" because of the abnormality of homosexuality, let heterosexual molestation off the hook since it is based not on something inately against nature but on an arbitrary and variable legal age line?

Not at all. It's the same as saying that a killer-rapist has committed a worse crime than a gang-killer who murders a rival gangster. Both have committed hideous crimes, but by calling one worse it by no means belittles the other.

[Antoninus]

Of course the homosexuals are after my kids. Every one of those guys had to have been recruited by somebody for them to first try the lifestyle.

You bet they were. All you had to do was visit a men's room at the university I attended to realize that the homos were actively recruiting. It was there that I first realized how vile and repugnant the homo-deathstyle actually is.

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

I can recall finding a Playboy stashed under some shrubs when I was 9. When I looked at it, I knew it was wrong even though I had no idea what pornography was or why it was wrong to look at it.

"Knowing" something is wrong after 9 years of aculturation by parents and society, regardless of your ability to define it in technical jargon and write essays on it, is a far far far cry from being born with such knowledge.

[Antoninus]

"Knowing" something is wrong after 9 years of aculturation by parents and society, regardless of your ability to define it in technical jargon and write essays on it, is a far far far cry from being born with such knowledge.

Ah, nature versus nurture. Before we continue this debate, will you tell me if you believe in the existence of the soul?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

Before we continue this debate, will you tell me if you believe in the existence of the soul?

If you convince me of its relevance.