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Coulter Won't Buy Into Lauer's Liberal Logic
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/06/2006 5:13:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

June 6, 2006

While considerable attention focuses on Ann Coulter's more superficial charms, from a conservative perspective Ann's real beauty is her absolute refusal to buy into liberal logic, no matter how pervasive. That independence of mind was on display this morning during her interview with Matt Lauer. Ann was on to tout her new book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism, released today on . . . 6/6/6 - sign of the devil and all that.

The first example came in the the context of President Bush's current push for a constitutional amendment that would prohibit gay marriage. The liberal mantra on his initiative, as exemplified by Ann Curry's performance on yesterday's Today, is that this is a cynical political ploy and a waste of time when there are myriad 'real' issues out there to be addressed.

Right out of the box, Lauer invited her to buy into that logic. Lauer:

"David Gregory said if you ask people what they care abou they say Iraq and gas prices. Gay marriages are way down on the list, but that's what the president is talking about and what the Senate is taking up. Why?"

Coulter would have none of it:

"I don't know what people are talking about or how David Gregory knows that. But I do know that gay marriage amendments have been put on the ballots in about 20 states now and passed by far larger numbers than Bush won the election by."

Lauer then hit Ann with a classic bit of perceived liberal truth: "Here's how E.J. Dionne puts it in the Washington Post:'The Republican party thinks its base of social conservatives is a nest of dummies who have no memories and respond like bulls whenever red flags are waved in their faces.' Do you agree with that?

Coulter: "That the base are dummies or that Bush thinks that?"

Lauer: "That he can wave a red flag and they will run to the polls to respond to him?"

Coulter: "They don't need to respond to him. He's not running again."

Lauer: "They want the voters to turnout in the mid-term elections. They don't want to lose control of the congress."

Coulter: "Maybe they want to do what the voters want. Whatever you can say about whether or not Bush has a mandate, the mandate against gay marriage is pretty strong. It passed by like 85 percent in Mississippi. Even in Oregon, and that was the state that the groups supporting gay marriage fixated on and outspent their opponents by like 40:1, it passed even there. There is a mandate against gay marriage."

Lauer: "Do you think George Bush in his heart really cares strongly about that issue?"

Coulter: "I don't know what anybody cares in his heart."

Lauer: "Would you take a guess?"

Coulter: "I know what Americans think because they keep voting, over and over and over again overwhelmingly they reject gay marriage. So why is that a bad thing for politicians to respond to what is overwhelmingly a mandate?"

Ann's rejection of Lauer's liberal logic was again on stunning display a bit later in the interview. Lauer suggested that Pres. Bush's low approval ratings are attributable to Iraq. That in turn engendered the following exchange.

Coulter: "I don't think so. That's the one thing he is doing right and that the Democrats are incapable of doing. That is fighting the war on terror."

Lauer: "But I am talking about the war with Iraq, not the war on terror."

Coulter: "I consider them the same thing. We didn't invade Guatemala."

Cue the rim shot!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; anncurry; bush; digression; distraction; diversion; dogandponyshow; evasion; flimflam; gaymarriage; godless; iraq; lauer; manbehindthecurtain; mediabias; panderbear; razzledazzle; redherring; shellgame; snowjob; todayshow; wot
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1 posted on 06/06/2006 5:14:00 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show/NewsBusters Ann-Coulter-rocks ping.


2 posted on 06/06/2006 5:14:45 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: All
I know, I know:


3 posted on 06/06/2006 5:15:29 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?


4 posted on 06/06/2006 5:17:13 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Condi 2008.<------added January 2004. Remember you heard it here first)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for all your hard work, GLGB.


5 posted on 06/06/2006 5:19:07 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for the great report. Ann of the amazing mind strikes again. All too often the "conservative" guest buys into the premise and thereby distorts the argument. Not so for Ann.


6 posted on 06/06/2006 5:19:24 AM PDT by Bahbah (The Dream Act...the latest nightmare to be brought to you by the US Senate)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

She's so smart, she can just play with Lauer-mouth.


7 posted on 06/06/2006 5:20:10 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That was mean. Lauer's just a kid.


8 posted on 06/06/2006 5:20:21 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Classic! I consider them the same thing. We didn't invade Guatemala."


9 posted on 06/06/2006 5:20:23 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pistolshot

What more could a conservative woman ask for? Ann Coulter gives Matt Lauer a wedgie that he won't soon forget. Just reached over and pulled his Tuesday panties straight UP. Ouch!


10 posted on 06/06/2006 5:21:08 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual...if they sense scorn or ridicule, they'll flee)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Coulter threads such as this one tend to serve as touchstones for showing which FReepers have latent liberal tendencies and actually support the destruction of the traditional family through liberal machinations such as gay marriage. They'll be here shortly to denounce Ann for her "red meat" rhetoric.


11 posted on 06/06/2006 5:21:26 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Pistolshot
Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?

A beer?

12 posted on 06/06/2006 5:21:54 AM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Lauer in a battle of wits, brings a cap pistol to a howitzer fight.

A little noise drowned out by the roar of overwhelming truth.

13 posted on 06/06/2006 5:22:30 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

RULES! WE MUST OBSERVE THE RULES!...............


14 posted on 06/06/2006 5:22:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

i wouldn't call Ann's charms "superficial".


15 posted on 06/06/2006 5:23:31 AM PDT by camle (Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
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To: N. Theknow

Lauer in a battle of wits? Then he is severely under-armed......


16 posted on 06/06/2006 5:24:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: ClaireSolt

I'm not sure that was the best reply but the whole thing is really quite impressive.

I love Ann when she digs in and goes to head to head. Nothing better. Would pay to see it every single day.

She's terrific.


17 posted on 06/06/2006 5:24:49 AM PDT by romanesq (.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Indeed, she's an outstandingly brilliant woman! She can see through any BS the media puts out there.


18 posted on 06/06/2006 5:25:18 AM PDT by blitzgig
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This was the most aggressive response I have ever seen anyone give Matt Lauer - it was incredible - I was amazed at just how strongly Ann defended her position with zero apologies.

While Matt sits there with producers yelling in his ear - Ann just fired right back at him.

I must admit to you Ann Coulter - I am now a fan.


19 posted on 06/06/2006 5:25:43 AM PDT by Jake The Goose (My McCain story - once again)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This interview reminds me of William F. Buckley being asked why Robert F. Kennedy refused to debate Buckley on "Firing Line"... I think Buckley's comment went something like: "Wouldn't the meat refuse the grinder, if given a choice?"


20 posted on 06/06/2006 5:25:47 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: Red Badger

In the battle of wits, lauer is a nit.


21 posted on 06/06/2006 5:26:25 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual...if they sense scorn or ridicule, they'll flee)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; All
"Coulter Won't Buy Into Lauer's Liberal Logic"

A very uneven match of intellects, I'd say. Matt Lauer should be more careful about whom he challenges in a debate.

22 posted on 06/06/2006 5:27:01 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
What was that she said at the end? "Where's Katy? Did she leave or something?" Lauer said: "Yeah, something like that"...

I also enjoyed the part where he said something and she said "Well...you're getting testy with me!" She doesn't hold back does she....haha
Wish the congress had half the guts that she does to stand up for what they believe and say so.

23 posted on 06/06/2006 5:27:06 AM PDT by Fawn (BUILD A LONG TALL WALL)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Two questions. One, why would the Today Show ever book someone like Coulter as a guest? And two, why would Coulter ever appear on something as biased as the Today Show?


24 posted on 06/06/2006 5:27:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: neodad

You are so right.

Ann, could you bring me a beer?


25 posted on 06/06/2006 5:27:44 AM PDT by battlecry
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To: DCPatriot

My pleasure, DCP, particularly on morning's like this!


26 posted on 06/06/2006 5:28:32 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Coulter vs Lauer; it's like watching a cat play with a mouse.


27 posted on 06/06/2006 5:28:51 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: neodad

"Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?

A beer?"


A cigarette!


28 posted on 06/06/2006 5:28:58 AM PDT by Knight Templar
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To: neodad
Brilliant, beautiful, decisive. What more could a man ask for?

A beer?

Ding-Ding-Ding! Line 'o the day nominee!

29 posted on 06/06/2006 5:30:27 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
One - She is a best-selling author - even on the Slimes list.

Two - She is a best-selling author - with a new book to sell.

30 posted on 06/06/2006 5:30:47 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: Red Badger

See #3 for gosh sakes.


31 posted on 06/06/2006 5:30:56 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Red Badger

32 posted on 06/06/2006 5:31:22 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks for that update and fill. Love to see Ann in action.


33 posted on 06/06/2006 5:32:32 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal Free. . .or suffer the consequences. . .)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There was a good, quick round on F & F this morning too, between Bill Kristol and E.D. Hill.

Topic was illegals. Kristol is on the same page as the Administration, touting the 'comprehensive' bill, yada yada yada.

E.D. interrupted Bill and told him 'you are out of touch with America'. She went on to give a few examples which Kristol shrugged off as insignificant.

===


34 posted on 06/06/2006 5:32:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Red Badger
Actually, she looks better at the beach...


35 posted on 06/06/2006 5:33:00 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: JCEccles

Yep, the soft little libs will be along soon to decry that Ann is "mean spirited".


36 posted on 06/06/2006 5:33:18 AM PDT by subterfuge (Call me a Jingoist, I don't care...)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Coulter: "I consider them the same thing. We didn't invade Guatemala."

SLLLAAAAPPPPPPP!!!!

37 posted on 06/06/2006 5:33:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good stuff. I would have liked to watch that.


38 posted on 06/06/2006 5:33:52 AM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I consider them the same thing.

Weak, Ann. Very weak.

The proper reply is "They are the same thing."

It's not a matter of opinion, so don't state it as such. The War on Terror has many fronts, including Afghanistan, Iraq, the States, etc.

In fact, the War on Terror and the war in Iraq would be the same thing even if Ann Coulter didn't "consider them" so.

39 posted on 06/06/2006 5:34:41 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ann's charms are wasted on Lauer. Couldn't they find a man to interview her?


40 posted on 06/06/2006 5:34:51 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Thanks a million for posting this. It would have been worth my time to watch the Ann/Matt catfight.

I'm hopeful Ian will have the video on his site.

You do a great service GLGB. Thanks.


41 posted on 06/06/2006 5:36:09 AM PDT by Chuck54
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sorry I missed it. Sounds like Ann was on her game. She deserves to be lauded louder than Lauder.


42 posted on 06/06/2006 5:36:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: mathluv

She'll be a best selling author, Today Show or no Today Show.


43 posted on 06/06/2006 5:36:49 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Larry Lucido

Lauder = Lauer


44 posted on 06/06/2006 5:36:50 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Chuck54

Glad you enjoyed it - it's really my pleasure.


45 posted on 06/06/2006 5:36:58 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

ratings, ratings, ratings - she attracts conservatives who respect her, and liberals who hate her.


46 posted on 06/06/2006 5:37:17 AM PDT by avital2
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

#3 doesn't count. Has a liberal nutjob in it......


47 posted on 06/06/2006 5:39:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Coulter: "I consider them the same thing. We didn't invade Guatemala."

That Ball is Outa Here! Check for Steroids on that lady!!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

48 posted on 06/06/2006 5:39:37 AM PDT by bray (Top 10 Bushbot!!)
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To: JCEccles

There are a lot of liberal freepers. We've all assumed we were all of similarly like minds, but that isn't so. There are a bunch of left wingers, especially the open borders gang with their invective against Ann Coulter.

We may have a more peaceful thread than usual because Ann defended Bush, keeping the Bushbot roar to a minimum. They usually trash her too.


49 posted on 06/06/2006 5:39:46 AM PDT by Luke21 (Democrats hate us, our heritage, and our religion. They think we belong in cages. Never forget.)
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To: Red Badger

Just close your left eye ;-)


50 posted on 06/06/2006 5:39:52 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show Since 2002 So You Don't Have To.)
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