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New 'Iraq massacre' tape emerges
BBC ^ | BBC

Posted on 06/01/2006 3:19:46 PM PDT by Axlrose

The BBC has uncovered new video evidence that US forces may have been responsible for the deliberate killing of 11 innocent Iraqi civilians.

The video appears to challenge the US military's account of events that took place in the town of Ishaqi in March.

The US said at the time four people died during a military operation, but Iraqi police claimed that US troops had deliberately shot the 11 people.

A spokesman for US forces in Iraq told the BBC an inquiry was under way.

The new evidence comes in the wake of the alleged massacre in Haditha, where US marines are suspected of massacring up to 24 Iraqi civilians in November 2005.

'Massacre'

The video pictures obtained by the BBC appear to contradict the US account of the events in Ishaqi, about 100km (60 miles) north of Baghdad, on 15 March 2006.

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The US authorities said they were involved in a firefight after a tip-off that an al-Qaeda supporter was visiting the house.

According to the Americans, the building collapsed under heavy fire killing four people - a suspect, two women and a child.

But a report filed by Iraqi police accused US troops of rounding up and deliberately shooting 11 people in the house, including five children and four women, before blowing up the building.

The video tape obtained by the BBC shows a number of dead adults and children at the site with what our world affairs editor John Simpson says were clearly gunshot wounds.

The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group opposed to coalition forces.

It has been cross-checked with other images taken at the time of events and is believed to be genuine, the BBC's Ian Pannell in Baghdad says.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: arabs5000us11; haditha; iraq; ishaqi; msm; murthawatch
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I question the timing of this announcement

"The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group"

More proof the BBC is actively working with the enemy.

1 posted on 06/01/2006 3:19:48 PM PDT by Axlrose
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To: Axlrose
The BBC is as useful as a used piece of toilet paper.
2 posted on 06/01/2006 3:20:56 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77
"The BBC is as useful as a used piece of toilet paper."

If that...

3 posted on 06/01/2006 3:21:52 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Axlrose

Do these people really think American Marines shot children in the head?

The Left is dangerous, folks. They hate us more than they hate the terrorists. In fact, they love the terrorists because they kill American soldiers.



4 posted on 06/01/2006 3:22:46 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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To: Axlrose

Yup, this one sounds fishy. The other incident is far more troubling because it appears that our own military has reached a preliminary opinion that the Marines shot innocents.

MM


5 posted on 06/01/2006 3:22:58 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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To: new yorker 77

Unless it says "Let's kill some civilians, hooaahh!" I won't be convinced.


6 posted on 06/01/2006 3:23:19 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Axlrose
"The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group"

And who has a proven track record for deliberately shooting and killing Iraqi civilians? Hardline Sunni groups.
7 posted on 06/01/2006 3:23:20 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Axlrose

The BBC is as RED as they come.

Don't believe those LIARS.

They're liars just like that traitor McGurk and the Commie rag "Time" are.

Yes, the Luces of "Time" were IN BED with the Stalinists.


8 posted on 06/01/2006 3:23:37 PM PDT by Crispus Attucks Patriot
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To: Axlrose

President Bush needs to put an end to all these witch hunts and grant pardons to all American forces in Iraq.


9 posted on 06/01/2006 3:24:38 PM PDT by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: MississippiMan
The Haditha incident is REALLY troubling because the chain of command may have been trying to hide it.

Bad news is best dealt with openly and honestly.

10 posted on 06/01/2006 3:24:58 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Axlrose; Coop

Murthawatch ping.....


11 posted on 06/01/2006 3:26:46 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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But a report filed by Iraqi police accused US troops of rounding up and deliberately shooting 11 people in the house, including five children and four women, before blowing up the building....shows a number of dead adults and children at the site with what...John Simpson says were clearly gunshot wounds...The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group opposed to coalition forces.

Iraqi police 'moles' enter the scene afterward, shoot corpses, show reporter, take pictures, fabricate story. How hard would that be?

12 posted on 06/01/2006 3:27:32 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Axlrose
The pictures came from a hardline Sunni group opposed to coalition forces.

That's all I need to know.

These butchers wouldn't give a second thought to grabbing bystanders and staging incidents like these ... they understand that this is a war of attrition.

The locals, even if they are sympathetic to the idea of a free Iraq (which in Sunni dominated regioins is not likely) won't step up and speak the truth because they know if the do their heads will be off before the sun goes down.

13 posted on 06/01/2006 3:28:06 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
"The Haditha incident is REALLY troubling because the chain of command may have been trying to hide it."

No, it is really troubling because the news media will make 10,000 times a bigger issue of this one incident than they will make of the 5,000 attacks against civilians perpetrated by the insurgents. I take it as a "given" that in a war of this magnitude there will be a few incidents where our troops violate the rules of war. I also take it as a given that they will be punished if the incidents come to light. Just as was Abu Ghraib, this will be blown up entirely out of proportion. That's what's really troubling.
14 posted on 06/01/2006 3:29:38 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV; Indy Pendance; ohioWfan; boxerblues; mystery-ak; Grampa Dave
President Bush needs to put an end to all these witch hunts and grant pardons to all American forces in Iraq.

That would only make the hunts intensify.

I just got done reading how one of the three officers allegedly relieved of command due to Haditha (and then we found out yesterday that WASN'T TRUE), he said in the weeks after the Haditha attack he met repeatedly with local Iraqi leaders. Nobody said a word about any civilian massacres.

Well, that's certainly inconvenient. It's amazing what happens to these cut and run "cold blooded murder" cases when the other side gets to tell its story.

15 posted on 06/01/2006 3:31:18 PM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Pale Horse takes this course on ANY thread involving this subject


16 posted on 06/01/2006 3:31:50 PM PDT by 100American
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To: MississippiMan
it appears that our own military has reached a preliminary opinion that the Marines shot innocents.

I missed that. Got a link?

17 posted on 06/01/2006 3:31:53 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! I *LOVE* my attitude problem. Beware the Enemedia!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Question is, can we have freedom without a free media ?

Also

Why does a free media seem to always "hang to the left ?"


18 posted on 06/01/2006 3:32:01 PM PDT by Axlrose
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To: Axlrose
The video tape obtained by the BBC shows a number of dead adults and children at the site with what our world affairs editor John Simpson says were clearly gunshot wounds.

What caliber/cartridge was used to inflict the woulds?

Were they inflicted before or after death?

19 posted on 06/01/2006 3:33:02 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: nonsporting

Look, that doesn't matter. John Simpson, who has had a long career finding ways to undermine America, says who did it.

Why let details get in the way.

Why do we let this organisation in the country ?

Zimbabwe has banned them, and i haven't seen any BS about that country for a while.

Its time for leadership Mr President. Take a stand.


20 posted on 06/01/2006 3:36:06 PM PDT by Axlrose
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