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Online Service Helps Callers Beat Caller I.D.
Yahoo news ^ | May 24, 2006 | Yahoo

Posted on 05/24/2006 8:04:05 AM PDT by tlb

KMBC's Jere Gish reported that is is called Caller I.D. spoofing, and it is readily available online at Web site such as SpoofCard.com and TeleSpoof.com.

The Web sites allow people to chose any number they want to pop up in someone's Caller I.D.

Computer hackers have been able to do this with special equipment for years. But only recently have Web sites popped up to offer it to anyone. Just log in, sign up, pay with your credit card and you're ready to go.

All of this is legal. Gish reported that it is often used by debt collectors. A representative with TeleSpoof said most of its clients are bounty hunters and private investigators.

But it can have illegal uses, often for credit card scams, Gish said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: callerid; crankcalls; hackers; identitytheft
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It was a nice gadget while it lasted.
1 posted on 05/24/2006 8:04:07 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb
All of this is legal. Gish reported that it is often used by debt collectors.

Since when do debt collectors abide by the law in making their calls? They routinely harass and intimidate and call unrelated parties.

This is falsified identity. And in a commercial transaction, that can't be on the level.

2 posted on 05/24/2006 8:06:45 AM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: tlb

I've discovered in my old age that I am not required to answer the phone. If I don't recognize the number, the answering machine picks it up.

It's very liberating. :-)


3 posted on 05/24/2006 8:08:41 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I agree with you only i'm not so old. LOL

I refuse to be a slae to te phone or e-mail. If I am busy when the phone rings i let it ring and the machine pick up. Same if i dont recognize the number. As for e-mail, i tell people i may not check it but once or twice a week.

In urgent matters i can always be reached but i will not be a slave to strangers.


4 posted on 05/24/2006 8:11:41 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: tlb

Still works OK for me.

If I don't recognize the number, or it is undeterminable, I don't pick up the call. Simple as that. I have a machine, and none of those people will leave a message. Guess reaching me wasn't all that important after all.

My opinion is that anyone who is hiding their identity and won't leave a message is probably not worth talking to. Life's too short to waste talking to telemarketers.

Of course, I'm also currently not being tracked by bounty hunters. (at least I hope not)


5 posted on 05/24/2006 8:11:53 AM PDT by CertainInalienableRights
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To: SandyInSeattle

Exactly.


6 posted on 05/24/2006 8:11:54 AM PDT by Obadiah (Bushbot...and proud!)
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To: SandyInSeattle

I'm with you. My phone is there for my convenience, not for the convenience of others I know not.


7 posted on 05/24/2006 8:13:35 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (ELECT SOME WORKERS AND REMOVE THE JERKERS!!)
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To: tlb

If I don't recognise the number, I rarely answer.

If I do answer and my caller ID has been spoofed, I just hang up the phone.

I look at phone callers as guests in my home and expect them to act as such. Those entering under false pretences will be shown the door. Pronto.


8 posted on 05/24/2006 8:14:39 AM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: Mark Felton

Only my close friends and family and work have my cell phone number. Those are the people I want to talk to.

Everyone else gets the home number, ringer off, and the answering machine.


9 posted on 05/24/2006 8:15:12 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: SandyInSeattle

My ringer is turned off


10 posted on 05/24/2006 8:15:58 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower Traffic Keep Right)
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To: SandyInSeattle
I've discovered in my old age that I am not required to answer the phone. If I don't recognize the number, the answering machine picks it up.

Same here. One reason I don't have caller ID. And it is interesting to figure out which friends have caller ID and then don't answer your calls. I had one go loony with that last year. Told me via e-mail that she wouldn't "be bullied into answering her phone". It was real interesting since it was my son trying to call her son. I decided then and there that I didn't need a "friend" like that.

11 posted on 05/24/2006 8:21:14 AM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: tlb

All I have is a cell phone. I don't answer any number I don't recognize.


12 posted on 05/24/2006 8:25:06 AM PDT by GOP_Proud (After midnight, alcohol, frat boys, a stripper...no good can come from it.)
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To: tlb

Bump for later, thanks for posting! :)


13 posted on 05/24/2006 8:26:00 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: tlb

Before I got on the do-not-call list I was plagued by telemarketers. Now it's only politicians and charities that call.

Actual conversations I've had with telemarketers...



Me: I'm sorry, I'm not interested.
They: Sir, I have a wonderfull offer to make you.
Me: I have never in my life bought anything from an unsolicited call, and I guarantee you I NEVER WILL!
They: But sir, if you'll just give me a moment I can....
Me: You don't listen very well, do you?



They: Sir, do you mind if I ask you why you don't want to talk?
Me: Because I was taking a s*** when you called!
They: (obviously smirking and talking louder so that the scumbuckets in other cubicles could hear) I'M SORRY SIR, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CALL YOU WHILE YOU WERE TAKING A S***!



Then I learned the magic words... "Please put me on your do not call list!" Shuts them up instantly.

I just wish the DNC list would cover politicians and charities too! Those jerks have no "do not call list."


14 posted on 05/24/2006 8:34:02 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: tlb

Geeez : (

I share a phone with my bf. He sells car parts, etc. I have to pick up the phone. What's really bugging me right now is that our phone # apparently belonged to deadbeats. I have told them repeatedly that the number was assigned to us earlier this year. No comprende! I wouldn't answer, but my auntie calls, and it's "unknown name/#, and I don't want to miss her call.

I hate phones!


15 posted on 05/24/2006 8:34:36 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
If I don't recognize the number, the answering machine picks it up.

I have several different phone numbers. One of them is a Vonage line with no phone attached, but Vonage e-mails me whenever anyone leaves a message. That's the number I give out to all those businessess and agencies that demand my phone number. I get almost no telemarketing calls at all on my other lines, because one's a cell phone, and the other number (which I reveal only to friends and family) is unlisted, has anonymous call rejection and private call blocking.

16 posted on 05/24/2006 8:36:21 AM PDT by sourcery (Political & economic freedom: More important than gays burning flags at their weddings)
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To: SandyInSeattle

That's part of the point of spoofing the ID box. They find out some phone number you will answer and walla, you pick up the phone.

Of course then there are the times when you do have to answer the phone, that's when you really learn to hate telemarketers. When you have a relative that's dieing and every time the phone rings you expect it to be THAT call, then it turns out to just be some dork trying to sell you a new roof, that's a time in your life when if someone walked up to you and said "hi, I'm a telemarketer" you would kill them on the spot with your bare hands.


17 posted on 05/24/2006 8:40:13 AM PDT by discostu (get on your feet and do the funky Alphonzo)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Phone companies are able to assign a distinctive ring tone to a certain number, then you can know exactly when it is your aunt calling.
(I have Bellsouth - they have this service)


18 posted on 05/24/2006 8:45:37 AM PDT by gljones
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To: discostu
They find out some phone number you will answer and walla, you pick up the phone.

Now, that would really tick me off. Woe to the person who tries that little tactic with me!

19 posted on 05/24/2006 8:48:22 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: tlb

Unlisted phone number, problem solved.


20 posted on 05/24/2006 8:48:40 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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