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To: Alberta's Child

>Podhoretz belongs to a group of so-called "conservatives" who have spent far too much time living in urban nanny-states in the Northeast. William Kristol is another perfect case in point.

Do you reserve this illogic for those two, or do you apply it as well to folks like William F. Buckley, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage?

Do you really believe that National Review is viewed as 'quasi-Marxist' by flyover country?

I think that you guys have boxed yourself into a corner that we will all regret, but that's your affair.

I'll be willing to look at the record of anyone offered as an alternative, whether moderates believe them to be viable or not.

I haven't seen one name mentioned who has a record of accomplishment that offers a fraction of what this guy did in one of the most liberal places in the country.

I think it's a good thing that he managed to change some minds. I see not one name offered by social conservatives that I believe has the ability to change the mind of even one person who disagrees with them.

But then you people aren't interested in results. You've proven that with your posts.

I have to agree with the poster who characterized what you had to say about Podhoretz as 'spam.'

And I find it most interesting that a politician managed to cause a seemingly higher percentage of liberals to consider voting for him, than 'social conservatives.' The social conservatives see that as a matter of the candidate being too liberal, but by that logic, so was Reagan. Some of us view it as relating to the importance of the accomplishments of the candidate.

It's clear where the priorities of social conservatives lie. As I've said, I'm interested in results. Well, perhaps someone like Mike Pence would've managed to reduce crime in a place like NYC on the scale seen over the last decade.

Maybe not.

It's been interesting discussing this with you. I wonder if I'll ever again have the privilege of discussing politics with someone who automatically brands Northeastern conservatives as 'quasi-Marxists.'


722 posted on 05/24/2006 10:49:13 AM PDT by One-Four-Five
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To: One-Four-Five
How can you possibly say that you're "interested in results" when you have no idea what the results are going to be if Rudy Giuliani were to be elected to the White House?

Do you reserve this illogic for those two, or do you apply it as well to folks like William F. Buckley, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, and Michael Savage?

I don't know Buckley and Coulter well enough to comment on that, but I do know that Sean Hannity is a marginal conservative at best -- and I've taken a lot of grief for pointing out that Michael Savage is one of the biggest frauds in the media today.

737 posted on 05/24/2006 4:48:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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