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Citizenship by birthright up for debate
AP ^ | 5/22/6 | GIOVANNA DELL'ORTO

Posted on 05/22/2006 12:49:34 PM PDT by SmithL

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To: justshutupandtakeit
You complete misrepresent what I said

I quoted your entire post.

I can't help it if you post stupid things.

121 posted on 05/23/2006 12:16:40 PM PDT by JohnnyZ (Happy New Year! Breed like dogs!)
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To: conserv13
Should his citizenship be revoked?

It's a matter of what the law will be going forward.

122 posted on 05/23/2006 12:21:40 PM PDT by Protagoras ("A real decision is measured by the fact that you have taken a new action"... Tony Robbins)
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To: JohnnyZ

Your INTERPRETATION of the meaning of my post is the misrepresentation of which I spoke.


123 posted on 05/23/2006 12:30:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: twippo
Especially considering that probably more American men are married to foreign women than vice-versa. Consider servicemen stationed overseas, businessmen, husbands of mail-order brides, etc.

Exactly.

Shall we deny all those men the right to pass citizenship to their children solely because they're men?

The very idea is both absurd and anathema to American values. Worthy of a feminist rant, not a FReeper.

124 posted on 05/23/2006 7:15:30 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: Publius6961
"... subject to the jurisdiction of ..." may have been crystal clear some time in the distant past, but I suspect that a dozen legal jurisdictions scattered throughout the United States would arrive at as many conflicting opinions as are possible about what it means, today.

So, no. One can't say that illegals are exempted...

Are the tourists or visiting businessmen "subject to the jurisdiction of ..." who DO NOT WANT for their newborn children US citizenship? Are the foreign diplomats "subject to the jurisdiction of ..."? If not why people who are illegaly here should be?

125 posted on 05/23/2006 7:23:41 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mt:11:25: "Thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.")
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To: A. Pole
Are the foreign diplomats "subject to the jurisdiction of ..."? If not why people who are illegaly here should be?

Bad example. Foreign diplomats are specifically exempted from our laws. We can't prosecute them for crimes committed in the United States, we can only boot them out of the country.

Unless you're willing to argue that deportation is the only legal remedy we have against illegals who commit crimes in our nation, you have proven the point that they are subject to the jurisdiction.

126 posted on 05/23/2006 7:47:03 PM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: highball
Bad example. Foreign diplomats are specifically exempted from our laws.

Being temporarily in a legal domain is something else that belonging to the jurisdiction. Imagine a tourist whose child happen to be born prematurely in USA and who did not want it to happen, and whose child later does not want to come to USA. Is this child a subject to US taxation, US military draft, considered a traitor if serving in army of the REAL home country etc ...? It is absurd.

127 posted on 05/23/2006 8:12:52 PM PDT by A. Pole (Rasmussen: "multiculturalism cannot work as intolerant culture will impose its will on tolerant one")
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To: A. Pole
Is this child a subject to US taxation, US military draft, considered a traitor if serving in army of the REAL home country etc ...?

This child is if it then decides to live in the United States as an adult.

I could be wrong, but don't dual citizens (as would be this case) have to declare before they reach majority? If the child does not want his US Citizenship, he has ample opportunity to reject it.

That doesn't have anything to do with trying to pretend that illegals are not "subject to the jurisdiction" simply because we don't like the law and can't be bothered to change it.

128 posted on 05/24/2006 4:35:03 AM PDT by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: pissant

No more "anchor babies"!!!!!

Change the constitution.


129 posted on 05/24/2006 2:32:40 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW.)
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