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Folks George Bush is something rare. A politician for the most part that delievers on his promises ar at least sticks by them when trying to enact legislation. The President of the US that we have has been consistent.

There is a whole thread now on this English plus debate. People are shocked horrified. Bush has betrayed us again However

"Q: Should English be made the country’s official language? A: The ability to speak English is the key to success in America. I support a concept I call English-plus, insisting on English proficiency but recognizing the invaluable richness that other languages and cultures brings to our nation of immigrants. In Texas, the Spanish language enhances and helps define our state’s history. My fundamental priority is results. Whether a school uses an immersion program or a bilingual program, whichever effectively teaches children to read and comprehend English as quickly as possible, I will support. The standard is English literacy and the goal is equal opportunity - all in an atmosphere where every heritage is respected and celebrated.

Source: Associated Press Nov 1, 2000

PLease folks. Right here you have it. What is Bush's defination of Amnesty. He has said it time and time again. From the 2004 State of the Union " ask Congress to reform our immigration laws so they reflect our values and benefit our economy. I propose a new temporary-worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be found to fill the job. This reform will be good for our economy, because employers will find needed workers in an honest and orderly system. A temporary-worker program will help protect our homeland, allowing border patrol and law enforcement to focus on true threats to our national security. I oppose amnesty, because it would encourage further illegal immigration and unfairly reward those who break our laws. My temporary-worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

Source: 2004 State of the Union address to joint session of Congress Jan 20, 2004

versus Kerry "Amnesty to anyone here over 5 or 6 years Q: Would you support legalizing undocumented immigrants in this country? KERRY: Absolutely. I supported and was prepared to vote for amnesty from 1986. And it is essential to have immigration reform. Anyone who has been in this country for five or six years, who's paid their taxes, who has stayed out of trouble, ought to be able to translate into an American citizenship immediately, not waiting.

Source: Democratic Primary Debate, Albuquerque New Mexico Sep 4, 2003 "

So folks in the conservative movement need to quit saying he is lying or backing off. Guest Worker programs its above. In fact its the almighty Republican Platform for 2004. So please, I think thats a good indication that being for a guest worker program is not being a Rino.

In fact a pretty good set of principles that pretty much outlined his viewpoints going back to 99.

Agree or Disagree but people need to stop making charges of betrayal. It was all there for all to see from these quotes and probaly thousands more. We have a President that sticks to his word. Thats something to be promoted not bashed.

1 posted on 05/19/2006 2:53:25 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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To: catholicfreeper
Exactly why I despaired in '99, had to hold my nose to vote for him in 2000, and again in 2004.

I knew what he was, just like I knew what his daddy was. I won't compromise my values to vote for another moderate passed off as a Campaign Conservative by the GOP, no matter who the Dem candidate is.

No more, no more.

2 posted on 05/19/2006 2:58:47 PM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Hey George! Read OUR lips: Build the wall!)
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Our economy could not function without the immigrants

Lie.

I propose a new temporary-worker program to match willing foreign workers with willing employers when no Americans can be found to fill the job

OK, so right after an employer polls all 125 million Americans of working age we can talk about letting a few educated immigrants in. Until then, seal the borders.

Q: Should English be made the country’s official language?

This is a yes or no question. It doesn't require a paragraph to respond to it. Instead the President says this:I support a concept I call English-plus, So in other words, he does not support making English the official language of the United States. The more astute Freepers will notice that he pulled a standard politicians trick. He didn't answer the question posed, he answered the one he wished were posed.

My temporary-worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law, while bringing millions of hardworking men and women out from the shadows of American life.

Maybe the Presidents plan will do that, but the one currently under consideration in the Senage won't.

My temporary-worker program will preserve the citizenship path for those who respect the law

Unless of course they've managed to break the Law for a certain period of time..then they'll get to go right to the head of the line.

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3 posted on 05/19/2006 3:02:09 PM PDT by Lurker (Real conservatives oppose the Presidents immigration proposal. Help make sure it dies in the House.)
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To: catholicfreeper

It's a bully tactic. Everyone knew where he stood before getting elected and then reelected but now some think that they can bully him to go against his original positions.


5 posted on 05/19/2006 3:03:52 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Let's face it, there are people out there so blinded with anger that their rhetoric has become irrational.

Immigration automatically means illegal immigration.

Guest worker program automatically means amnesty.

Now, there are jobs out there that Americans won't do. Reasons being that they are too menial, too dangerous or sadly enough, it's easier to get welfare than be forced to go get a job. However, when an employer has a job site to finish, a contract to fulfill or a deadline to make, they will hire the person willing to work.


6 posted on 05/19/2006 3:03:57 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: catholicfreeper

G W Bush is an honest man. He is not sold out to anybody on this issue. And while I disagree with him on this issue, I still respect him and won't denegrate him. We just see this issue differently. I also won't set out '06 or waste a protest vote. Never never never never ever elect any dim for any reason.


7 posted on 05/19/2006 3:04:30 PM PDT by umgud (FR, NASCAR & 24, way too much butt time)
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To: catholicfreeper

No Comment other than have you read the proposed legislation? Did you hear Senator Sessions this morning?


11 posted on 05/19/2006 3:07:46 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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Sorry, but I take exception to the word "immigrant". The people invading the U.S. are not immigrants, they are law breakers, and the gubmint is doing nothing but encouraging them for their own benefit - NOT OURS. Immigrants are people who go through the legal means of applying to enter our country, then comply with our laws. Compassion should not apply to law breakers. Nor should benefits paid for by the American people. There are no jobs the American people would not do to support themselves or their families, no matter how many times the globalists say there are. It's time ALL Americans wake up. That is, if it is not too late.


13 posted on 05/19/2006 3:08:36 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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You are right, George Bush made clear in his words that he was no conservative. And so his current passion for pushing his "comprehensive" immigration reform is not a betrayal of his conservative pricipals because he has no conservative principals.


21 posted on 05/19/2006 3:20:09 PM PDT by shempy (EABOF)
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Sticking to your word is one thing, but when the fellow you made the bargain with is sticking a large shiv in your ribs, it's time to face reality. Worse, this open borders, lying to the American public, failure to protect borders and US sovereignty is both illegal and unconstitutional. When the dems take over, don't be surprised when they include failure to protect US sovereignty as one of the high crimes. It's hardly a misdemeanour.


24 posted on 05/19/2006 3:21:28 PM PDT by hershey
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From the Bush Kerry 2004 Tempe Debate:

There ought to be a temporary worker card that allows a willing worker and a willing employer to mate up... the card it'll have a period of time attached to it.

Now President Bush wants to give a permanent Green Card and a pathway to citizenship to 12 million lawbreakers. When he was trying to get our vote he stressed temporary, now it is permanent.

Sounds like a change in tune to me.

27 posted on 05/19/2006 3:23:24 PM PDT by Plutarch (Trading amnesty for border security will yield neither an end to amnesties nor border security.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Thanks to Bush, and his stand on "Immigration", I am no longer registered Republican (Now Independent)

Thanks to some statements by the Bishops, I no longer attend Mass, and will never donate any money or valuables to anything with a Catholic label.

You perople are STUPID! You only have to look at Mexico to see what your position and your "Country" will look like when the Hispanics are in power.

You are a lot like the Liberals who pander to the IslamoFascists, not realizing that when the Islamics take over, the Libs are going to be the first to be treated to a public execution.


33 posted on 05/19/2006 3:29:29 PM PDT by radar101 (The two hallmarks of Liberals: Fantasy and Hypocrisy)
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Actually I'm starting to think it was very very convenient for the son of "read my lips no taxes" to run against a known Moron in 2000 and a known Traitor in 2004.. Like "WE" had no choice.. and we didn't.. Very convenient..

Who is George W. Bush?.. Hes very sneaky I don't like that..
Like a smart John Kerry.

34 posted on 05/19/2006 3:29:41 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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Actually, there was a Path to Citizenship discussed at the third Bush-Kerry debate:

We need an earned-legalization program for people who have been here for a long time, stayed out of trouble, got a job, paid their taxes, and their kids are American. We got to start moving them toward full citizenship, out of the shadows.

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Oops....sorry, my bad... That was KERRY

35 posted on 05/19/2006 3:31:11 PM PDT by Plutarch (Trading amnesty for border security will yield neither an end to amnesties nor border security.)
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I knew Bush wasn't going to be as tough on illegals as I wanted him to be.

I even figgered he might have a soft spot for em.

But I had no idea granting them amnesty would be the single most important issue for him outside the WOT and that he would pursue such a policy with such dogged determination and to the detriment of his entire party.

48 posted on 05/19/2006 3:51:39 PM PDT by skeeter
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Had the democRATs fielded a reasonable candidate in 2000 or 2004, Dubya would not be President now. Fortunately, I can't think of any candidate from the left that could be considered "reasonable".

I knew that Dubya wasn't the best for the job, but he was certainly the best in the running. Unfortunately, the dilution of our national sovereignty is one of his desires.

54 posted on 05/19/2006 3:59:48 PM PDT by meyer (Permanently boycott all businesses that close for the May 1st illegal alien march!)
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We have a President that sticks to his word. Thats something to be promoted not bashed.

Is this going to be the latest spin on why we shouldn't be upset by Bush's love of amnesty? Sorry, sticking to your word is not inherently honorable when you're leading the nation toward darkness.

60 posted on 05/19/2006 4:07:51 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Howlin; Miss Marple

interesting excerpts, quotes from the President.


66 posted on 05/19/2006 4:18:07 PM PDT by deport
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When a large majority of U.S. of A. citizens are against citizenship for illegals the argument for citizenship is mute. It is about what the American citizens want. Not what President Bush, Senators Kennedy and McCain want.


70 posted on 05/19/2006 4:26:02 PM PDT by jerry639
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If a man promises Balkanization, destruction of the sovereignty of a discrete nation, expansion of welfare and entitlement programs, and does it, he in fact delivers on what he says.

Trouble is. . .

74 posted on 05/19/2006 4:46:13 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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"Our economy could not function without the immigrants"

I will assume by Immigrant they mean't ILLEGALS, I admire they're sidestepping...no not really. I suppose you forgot the day without an illegal. Yeah that day the day the stock market crashed and everyone had to pay 20 dollars for cabbage or a big mac...oh I forgot that never happened....

78 posted on 05/19/2006 5:01:35 PM PDT by Xenophon450 (Behead those who say Islam is violent)
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