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None Dare Call It Socialism
HOME SCHOOL LEGAL DEFENSE ASSOCIATION ^ | May 9, 2006 | Home School Legal Defense Association

Posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:05 PM PDT by Sopater

Homeschoolers believe that parents generally provide the best care for children, so when the Wyoming legislature started working on a "Quality Child Care Initiative" this year, homeschoolers got involved. The legislators made quite a few changes as they tried to find some compromise between people who put parents first and those who see the government as the answer to everything. The new law established a "Legislative Oversight Committee" to oversee progress. The Governor appointed a joint task force of the Department of Family Services and the Department of Workforce to make some initial assessments.

On Friday, April 28, the Legislative Oversight Committee held a meeting, and homeschoolers showed up to make sure Wyoming puts parents first. The Chairman, Representative Elaine Harvey (R-Lovell) gave each legislator time to present the concerns that where expressed by the House and Senate last session. Thanks to homeschoolers input during the session, the legislators wanted to address quite a few important issues. How much will this cost? How much the government should be involved in family life. How does the State decide who is "at risk," and what does the State do with such sensitive information?

The Legislature asked the Oversight Committee to look into a number of issues, including whether the whole program is even constitutional. Concerned citizens-including homeschoolers-stood up to express their opinions. Some of the most telling testimony objected to government involvement in the family and free enterprise and the negative effect of early institutionalization of children.

When one homeschool father called the whole Quality Child Care Initiative "socialism," Chairman Harvey objected. Senator Katherine Sessions (D-Cheyenne) chimed in. "This isn't socialism," she insisted. With socialism, she argued, you don't have a choice. She argued that the Quality Child Care Initiative is intended to give parents choices.

Task Force member Becky Vandeberghe responded promptly. "It may not be socialism yet, but it's moving in that direction."

Home School Legal Defense Association agrees with that assessment. If the government allowed you to choose whether or not to pay your taxes, government-funded child care might actually increase "choice." When the government takes your tax dollars to regulate and fund other people's child care, however, the power to choose goes down, not up.

The Task Force will hold hearings from now until late in the year. They are supposed to bring legislative proposals to the Legislative Oversight Committee by the first week in October, which will then try to finalize proposed legislation by November 15. We believe they need to hear from as many Wyoming citizens as possible. We will inform you where and when these hearings will take place. Please be ready to do what you can to speak up for family freedom!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: childcare; education; homeschool; hslda; parentalrights
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Task Force member Becky Vandeberghe responded promptly. "It may not be socialism yet, but it's moving in that direction."

Not only is it moving in that direction, but it is being aggressively driven by a "progressive" "liberal" social agenda.
1 posted on 05/17/2006 12:23:09 PM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater
compromise between people who put parents first and those who see the government as the answer to everything

Compromise? How do you compromise your core principles and remain conservative? To accept such a compromise is to lay down all we hold dear and to admit we were incorrect all this time...... This isn't compromise, it is surrender.

2 posted on 05/17/2006 12:26:37 PM PDT by Ben Mugged (If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Sopater

My liberal aunt is at least honest. She has no problem with the term socialism. Her ideas are ridiculous, but I respect her honesty. She makes me laugh because she is consumed with hatred for Wal-Mart and Michael Savage.


3 posted on 05/17/2006 12:34:18 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Sopater
With socialism, she argued, you don't have a choice. She argued that the Quality Child Care Initiative is intended to give parents choices.

Yeah right -- how about just leaving us alone.

4 posted on 05/17/2006 12:34:52 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Sopater

Homeschooling... Who in the HELL wants to be around their kids 24/7? I'm happy to send the little ankle-biters off to school.


5 posted on 05/17/2006 12:51:01 PM PDT by Kjobs (Mexico is our neighbor, and our friend.)
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To: Sopater
This is the camels nose under the tent. My Daughter homes schools and all the parents in her coop stay as far away from the government as they can. If you take one cent they start taking over. All school districts are against homeschhool because of there federal money.
6 posted on 05/17/2006 1:08:14 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: lonedawg

Do some snooping around, and you'll probably find the NEA in this somewhere...they've been looking for a legal way to kill off homeschooling.


7 posted on 05/17/2006 1:18:31 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Kjobs
Homeschooling... Who in the HELL wants to be around their kids 24/7? I'm happy to send the little ankle-biters off to school.

If you don't like being around them now, just wait till they grow up (if they every do).

8 posted on 05/17/2006 1:27:28 PM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Sopater

I cannot believe that ther eare so many people out there fooled by the idiotic government knows best line. How can any thinking breathing human think that getting government invloved in anything increases your choices?!


9 posted on 05/17/2006 1:29:14 PM PDT by vpintheak (What's worse, a liberal, or a know it all posing as a Conservative?)
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To: DesScorp
The Ba$turds use to try to compare scores till' they got embarrassed so many times.
10 posted on 05/17/2006 1:37:48 PM PDT by lonedawg (why does that rag on your head say holiday inn?)
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To: Kjobs

The worst thing about home schooling is the lack of socialization. Sure, the kids win spelling bees, but they seem a bit strange and Kaczynski-like. Now, I will stand here in the open and take fire from the home schooling lobby.


11 posted on 05/17/2006 1:41:19 PM PDT by spall
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To: spall

What did kids do about socialization before there were public schools? Don't recall too many unibombers from those days. And aren't there any other kids on your block that your kid plays with?


12 posted on 05/17/2006 1:49:59 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: spall

You must be having an awfully boring day to place yourself in danger of fire and brimstone from us homeschoolers! Things should liven up for ya real soon... :o)


13 posted on 05/17/2006 1:55:04 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: spall
Here, borrow this fireproof jacket.

The number one thing I got asked as a kid getting homeschooled was 'what about socialization' to which I would reply, "Why would I want to be a socialist?" Most of the people asking did not get the irony. Homeschool kids 'seem a bit strange' because they are on the average, polite and well behaved. I was FAR more social and did far more activities with other people outside the home back then compared to know (29years old). Sitting in a classroom with 30 other kids does nothing to prepare someone for the 'real world'. Other things do much more, sports, group projects, boy scouts, church youth groups. The list is long and all of them are available to home schooled kids if the parents seek them out.

I have met many homeschool graduates and not one of them complained they did not have enough socialization growing up. Also they all (all the ones I have met) had good paying jobs or were in college doing well working on a good degree. That and many of the public school grads I had met had really bad social experiences in school. Picked on, bullied, beat up, none of which has any use in training someone for the 'real world' and only teaches someone to not stand of for themselves out of fear. (everyone I have ever met that thought getting picked on was good for a kid were large and physically fit. They did not get the irony of that either.)

Yeah I turned out a bit different than normal but I think my homeschool graduate of a fiancee (freeper JenB) kinda likes how I turned out.
14 posted on 05/17/2006 1:57:01 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: spall

Was Kaczynski homeschooled? The Columbine boys were, as I recall, 100% public schooled. Come to think of it, every kid-killer that comes to mind was a product of public schools.


15 posted on 05/17/2006 1:58:00 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Democrats: soulless minions of orthodoxy.)
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To: JenB; 2Jedismom; SuziQ; g'nad

Bored? Got a flamethrower handy?


16 posted on 05/17/2006 1:59:32 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: ChocChipCookie

Homeschoolers would have known enough not to get caught :-D


17 posted on 05/17/2006 2:00:08 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Sopater

Libs desperately want to eliminate homeschooling because it doesn't give in to the leftist agenda of public schools.


18 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:05 PM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Tired of Taxes

Ping! Thought you might be interested in this.


19 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:24 PM PDT by Kaylee Frye
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To: Kjobs
Who in the HELL wants to be around their kids 24/7? I'm happy to send the little ankle-biters off to school.

I'm happy to be around my kids 24/7, but that's because they are homeschooled. If you send your's off to school every day, I'm sure they are not the kind of kids that I would want to be around for much more than 15 minutes myself. No offense of course.
20 posted on 05/17/2006 2:02:30 PM PDT by Sopater (Creatio Ex Nihilo)
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