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To: canuck_conservative
I'm sorry to have to disagree, but the bottom line was not drawn on Monday night. The fact is that for the past six years Congress has proved that it is not serious about securing the U.S.-Mexico border. 

The reason is exactly what the author points out, which is that as far back as Jimmy Carter there has been no move to stop or even apprehend what now amounts to more than eleven million illegals who are living in the U.S. without a permit. A reality that is much more dangerous to our nation's security than guns will ever be.

Those who want  to blame Bush are forgetting that he is the commander and chief and doesn't pass enabling legislation or appropriation bills. He has no authority to move the National Guard into states that harbor illegal aliens and use guns or force of any kind. He has no authority to say that employers who employ illegal aliens will go to jail, and incidentally he has no authority to lower the price of gas, or free the blacks in Durfar.

He gave this message to his party and to the no-idea detractors who were not listening: ""Illegal immigration puts pressure on public schools and hospitals, it strains state and local budgets, and brings crime to our communities," he said. Securing our borders is "an urgent requirement of our national security." We need to close our borders to "criminals, drug dealers and terrorists." Is that using the bully pulpit, or is he just talking to hear himself speak?

If border security means putting human resources there then how about 45,000 new border patrol agents? Only 1/3 of whom are on duty at any one time. If the U.S. has money for disaster relief around the world, including some of our enemies, than I think Congress can find enough money to create 45,000 new jobs that Americans are willing to do.

As for the eleven million, many of whom were illegal before Bush took office, many have jobs and live in homes. You want to hear Dick Durban speak after the National Guard descends on their homes and drags them out into the street and into police wagons like the Nazis did in Germany?  I don't think so. For all of you who say "send them back before they are eligible for citizenship", tell me how you would do that? Hannity,  you have any better ideas than the democrats have on - you pick the subject.

Don't make me laugh! Maybe you want to put our economy into a depression by putting every CEO, President, and private businessman in jail who has an illegal alien on his books? Those people pay taxes too, and the IRS happily gives them tax ID numbers to send in their money. You tell me, does the President have control over the IRS, or does Congress?

Get real, bashing Bush doesn't take much intelligence that's why so many democrats and others do it so often. And if it continues the the dam-O-crats will be laughing all the way to the house majority leader Nancy Pelosi.

14 posted on 05/17/2006 8:13:23 AM PDT by street_lawyer (Conservative Defender of the Faith)
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To: street_lawyer

I will tel you how it is done. Many of these never pay any income tax. They file as "married -6" and probaably use phony SSAN. You cannot fire for a phony SSAN. You are told to advise the employee to contact the Social Security office. All this takes time, allowing the illegal to move to another job and restart the cycle. Put Social Security on notice that they WILL handle these matters on a timely basis, and WILL cooperate with IRS and other FedGov enforcement. Tax evasion is a crime and makes one deportable. If you deport 1 million, 5 million more go home.
Don't forget the Haitian and European illegals while you are at it. Lord knows how many Irish the Kennedys are protecting in Boston, who may be associated with Irish gangs there


20 posted on 05/17/2006 8:51:10 AM PDT by steve8714 (Illegals are a pain in the butt.)
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To: street_lawyer
[ Get real, bashing Bush doesn't take much intelligence that's why so many democrats and others do it so often. And if it continues the the dam-O-crats will be laughing all the way to the house majority leader Nancy Pelosi. ]

WRONG.. The more the democrats bash Bush the more "conservatives" close ranks to support Bush in passing legislation NO DEMOCRAT president could get passed.. Quite brilliant really..

To the extent normalizing illegal and legal aliens adds to the democrat voting base.. Will they VOTE?.. Even the dead vote in the democrat party.. The question should be How long HAVE they been voteing already.. not if..

Why would a republicrat President be FOR increasing the ranks of the democrat voting base?.. The answer(s) could be cut through the political haze.. I say could, because the democrats still attack Bush, and some of Bushs base is still stuck on stupid.. less and less as the day goes on though.. The boy is getting EXPOSED... He's been a RINO from day one.. "I'm a Unite'er not a Divide'er- Bush"... He's been uniteing with democrats from day one..

40 posted on 05/17/2006 10:01:22 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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