Posted on 05/13/2006 7:23:10 AM PDT by A. Pole
"Americans weren't affected by Tsarist Russia so I don't really care too much. "
Cut the crap - and do you really think your fooling anyone?
This country is PRO UKRAINE AND ANTI-RUSSIAN THUGGERY and we are not suffering your feigned foolishness gladly.
"This country is PRO UKRAINE AND ANTI-RUSSIAN THUGGERY and we are not suffering your feigned foolishness gladly."
If you ask the average American about Ukraine and Russia they will say they are the same country. If you ask the average American about the Soviet Union they will say that they were godless commies to include the UKRAINIANS.
This country is PRO-AMERICAN. Last time I checked, there weren't too many Americans raising Ukrainian flags up the flag pole and saluting. That you continue to advance the cause of Ukrainian nationalism to the detriment of the United States shows your open disloyalty to this country. Why don't you go to Lvov and build your Ukrainian nationalist Utopia - the Red-Browns that occupy that section of the world would welcome you with open arms.
And while we're at it, could you enlighten us to the biographies of the following Ukrainians:
Skrypnyk, Chubar, Petrovsky, Kosior, Strohanov, Terekhov, and Mayorov?
And how long have you considered Nestor Ivanovich Makhno a hero of the Ukrainian people?
Actually it was Jews, Uks, Ples, Russkis, Tatars, Maris, and other ethnics in approximatly that order.
Because whites were both anti-Polish and anti-Ukrainian, they were not better for us than the commies. We preferred them both to kill each other. Why would we support anti-Polish scum?
THIS is "BETTER" than holocaust denial!
Oh come on, you don't really believe that. Shall I post the actual percentages as researched by the Hoover Institute? OR do you want to go ahead and fess up that not only Russians were involved in the worst crimes ever committed on mankind. How about a little honesty?
Regarding the Whites - also revisionist on your part - the Whites were more than just one movement. There were some xenophobic Whites, but there were also Whites who weren't "anti-Polish" as you put it. And once again you stumble upon an interesting point in History. The Poles, as you put it, found it better to kill both Reds and Whites instead of supporting the Whites. Had the Whites had more support they could have won and Eastern Europe wouldn't have fallen to the bolsheviks. Instead the Poles showed they lacked vision for their future and paid the price.
Let's talk about "holocaust denial" STRAIGHT from the Nazi archives:
"Apart from 215 Jewish and Bolshevik officials, 15 more NKVD agents were shot in Bialystok. The NKVD office had been completely burnt down. Only in the cellar vaults was it possible to secure various lists. The executions continued all the time at the same rate. The Polish section of the population has shown it supports the executions by the Security Police by informing on Jewish, Russian, and also Polish Bolsheviks. The security of the city and of the surrounding districts is not, at present, sufficiently assured, owing to a lack of Byelorussian police forces. When the Soviets entered Bialystok in 1939, they sent all police and judicial officials to Siberia, and set up a new administration. This set-up was, however, completely dissolved by the Russians before the Wehrmacht occupation. All official files and documents were destroyed. An auxiliary police force was formed, subordinate to the Einsatz unit in Bialystok, by recruiting the White Russian forces and former Polish criminal-police officials. "
Evidence of Polish complicity in crimes associated with the Holocaust.
"The Poles were something around 0,0…%. Dzierzynski were placed on his post just for propagandist reasons"
HHAHAHAHA NOW THAT IS HILARIOUS. Can you actually write something like that and keep a straight face?
Whatever Lukas, you've clearly establish you have either no concept of actual historical facts, or you're willfully ignoring it out of pride for one of the guilty parties.
""The Polish section of the population has shown it supports the executions by the Security Police by informing on Jewish, Russian, and also Polish Bolsheviks.""
"Evidence of Polish complicity in crimes associated with the Holocaust."
HA - as laughable as your claim that Jews ran the Kremlin . I swupposed they decided to kill themselves during the Doctor Purge of the 30's?
And the above quote is not evidence of Holocaust duplicity - only that they hated Bolshevics irregardless of religion or nationality.
"And how long have you considered Nestor Ivanovich Makhno a hero of the Ukrainian people?"
I see your hitting the joy juice again. Can you refresh our memories and document my ever mentioning this person?
And Ivanovich sends very Russian - not Ukrainian.
But again with the diversions - the issue is the hamfisting of Europe by Russia with its monopoly on gas purchasing and sales
Diversions, eh? Surely you know the Ukrainian national hero -Makhno (a VERY Ukrainian last name). Ivanovich? His dad was Ivan. There are plenty of Ukrainian Ivans (John).
HA - as laughable as your claim that Jews ran the Kremlin . I swupposed they decided to kill themselves during the Doctor Purge of the 30's?
And once again you show your complete ignorance of history. The Doctor's Purge was in the 1950s, orchestrated by Beria and was stopped when Stalin died and Beria was arrested. But please continue to publish from Spanalot's Ukraine Uber Alles History book.
Brigadier General Reinhard Gehlen
Chief of the Third Reich's "Foreign Armies East."
Gehlen worked with many secret fascist organizations, including:
Stepan Bandera's "B Faction," Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists
Romania's Iron Guard
the Ustashe of Yugoslavia
the Vanagis of Latvia
Vlasov's "Army" in Russia."
make that, "Doctors' Plot"
Youre right - its hard to keep up with all the different chapters in Russian Genocide.
The jewish Doctors were killed in the Great Terror of the late 30's when Stalin killed 5-10 million.
Once again, you use the tactic of red herrings to deflect attention away from the subject of this post - and that is that the Russians would sell their mothers for a kopec.
"One kopec, one life."
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