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Light's Most Exotic Trick Yet: So Fast it Goes ... Backwards?
University of Rochester ^
| 11 May 2006
| Staff (press release)
Posted on 05/12/2006 7:42:17 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Yo-Yo
But light is a quantum phenomena. It is discrete not continuous. Single photos exist. They are a easily prove to exist using double slit.
So a single photon pulse will have no leading edge.
A Taylor series approximation is a continuous method derived from the constraints the operations of calculus. E.I. calculus requires the inputs to its operations to be continuous. Placing these artificial constrains on a real phenomena will get you absurd results. E.G. needing an infinite series of continues sine waves to make up a discrete event.
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posted on
05/12/2006 8:55:11 AM PDT
by
Auslander
(Always remember, "You fight how you train." So, train hard, train often.)
To: agere_contra
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posted on
05/12/2006 8:58:19 AM PDT
by
mcshot
(Enemies through our nonexistent gates.)
To: PatrickHenry
Now, move the whole universe back in time, and we can do the whole thing again.
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posted on
05/12/2006 8:58:53 AM PDT
by
onedoug
To: PatrickHenry
How do we know the light didn't make a U-turn
To: Yo-Yo
Good catch, I was going to post that reply too.
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posted on
05/12/2006 9:06:28 AM PDT
by
stevio
(Red-Blooded Crunchy Con American Male (NRA))
To: PatrickHenry
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
05/12/2006 9:09:47 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
("It's war, not a Quickie-Mart robbery gone bad..." -- Freeper hershey)
To: Yo-Yo
.syawedis dna, sdrawrod, sdrawkcab swolf thgiL .rekcehclleps sih ton s'ti ebyaM
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posted on
05/12/2006 9:15:28 AM PDT
by
GOPJ
("It's war, not a Quickie-Mart robbery gone bad..." -- Freeper hershey)
To: GOPJ
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posted on
05/12/2006 10:00:41 AM PDT
by
contemplator
(Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
To: PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer
I hope in the paper they managed to use the word "endochronic".
To: Quark2005
Good article. Explains a lot. Thanks.
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posted on
05/12/2006 10:56:49 AM PDT
by
PatrickHenry
(Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: Physicist; PatrickHenry
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posted on
05/12/2006 10:56:55 AM PDT
by
RadioAstronomer
(Senior member of Darwin Central)
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
05/12/2006 11:23:49 AM PDT
by
DocRock
To: GOPJ
.syawedis dna, sdrawrod, sdrawkcab swolf thgiL .rekcehclleps sih ton s'ti ebyaM (^; ?"sdrawrof" naem uoy oD ?"sdrawrod"
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posted on
05/12/2006 11:39:56 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: camle
and if light can be made to go backwards, down't that mean it has mass? and doesn't that destroy the conservation of matter thoery that says that mass cannot be created nor destroyed since one can turn a light off and on?
First off, light does have mass.
Second the conservation of matter theory could easily be said to be a conservation of energy theory as well because E=MC². Energy and Mass are directly proportional to each other. When you turn a light on, nothing is created as electrons are used to generate photons (light) both of which are different kinds of energy.
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posted on
05/12/2006 11:41:17 AM PDT
by
LuxMaker
To: Auslander
Light is also a wave phenomon, or else you couldn't do a defraction experiment, including the two slit one photon experiment.
Even on a quantum level, a photon has frequency associated with it, otherwise all photons would be the same color. Imagine if you will a single round photon, going past a slit. Being round, you'd see at first just a sliver of the photon, then the whole body, then finally just a sliver of the tail end. Leading and trailing edges of a photon. Unless it is your contention that photons are cubes? LOL
All I know is my EE calculus says that you can't generate a perfect sqare wave because you can't generate all of the odd harmonics required. You will always be dealing with a risetime, a falltime, and a certain amount of ringing in the squarewave.
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posted on
05/12/2006 11:56:14 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: LuxMaker; RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry; RightWhale; Physicist
Pesky bosons and leptons. They need to all be in a condensate ... Mmmm, think I'll get an ice cream.
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posted on
05/12/2006 11:59:52 AM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
To: Yo-Yo
sdrawkcab krow t'nseod rekcehclleps ruoY Ereht thgir ynnuf s'taht won.
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posted on
05/12/2006 12:00:05 PM PDT
by
SaveTheChief
("This one goes to eleven.")
To: PatrickHenry
w...t...F?!?!?
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posted on
05/12/2006 12:00:57 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
To: VadeRetro; PatrickHenry
[I know this all sounds weird, but this is the way the world works," says Boyd.] The result is weird, but apparently theory predicted the result. So, yes. It's a weird world.
As JBS Haldane said, "The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we *can* imagine."
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posted on
05/12/2006 12:02:22 PM PDT
by
Ichneumon
(Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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