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Dems Join Suit to Ban Terrorist Surveillance
NewsMax ^ | 5/12/06

Posted on 05/12/2006 5:54:13 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Until now, Democrats had insisted that they didn't want to end President Bush's terrorist surveillance program, saying instead that the law merely needed to be changed to make terrorist surveillance inside the U.S. illegal.

On Wednesday, however - even before USA Today's bogus report about the NSA's phone number data collection program - 71 House Democrats signed up to sponsor a move that would make it illegal for the NSA to continue to monitor terrorist phone calls.

The liberal web site Raw Story reported Thursday:

"The 71 Democrats and one independent filed an amicus brief in two federal courts reviewing challenges to the warrantless wiretapping program in Detroit and New York, joining the American Civil Liberties Union and the Center for Constitutional Rights."

"Both suits demand the program be stopped."

Predictably, Michigan Democrat John Conyers led the charge: "As our brief makes clear, this Congress dealt with this issue authoritatively almost 30 years ago - warrantless spying on American soil is flatly prohibited," he railed.


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Dems Join Suit to Ban Terrorist Surveillance

Well allll righty then! When the next terrorist attack comes we can blame the Democrats.

I hope NewsMax realizes that Raw Story is a favorite website of Conyers - he gives interviews there pretty often. And their stories are not very credible

1 posted on 05/12/2006 5:54:15 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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SORRY I FORGOT TO POST THE LINK TO THE STORY

Dems Join Suit to Ban Terrorist Surveillance

2 posted on 05/12/2006 5:55:10 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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Dems Join Suit to Ban Terrorist Surveillance

...ALL ENEMIES FORGEIGN & DOMESTIC!

3 posted on 05/12/2006 5:58:50 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage
As Mark Levin says:

Is not life the most important of civil liberties? These intelligence programs are trashed without any curiosity as to whether they've prevented any attacks and saved any lives. The hostile responses are largely knee-jerk and lack any kind of context. The arguments are abstract and descend into fear-mongering. While I'm all for philosophical debates, how about a little more reality when it comes to fighting and winning this war—a real war against a horrific enemy.

4 posted on 05/12/2006 6:00:49 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: areafiftyone
Good, get it up to the Supreme Court and when they choose not to insert themselves in Presidential Authorities the whole Democrat talking points end with the case. Then again they will go right back to Bush is stacking the bench. I believe that the mere collection of numbers and calls, absent names, addressed, ss#, etc..., has already been ruled lawful.
5 posted on 05/12/2006 6:02:15 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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Ohhhh...so this is behind that stupid story that is not news. I heard AP interview idiots in SF all saying they didn't want people listening into their phone calls! What a bunch of colossal morons on display. They are ripping off Jay Leno's Jay Walking segment. I'd sue!


6 posted on 05/12/2006 6:02:50 AM PDT by gr8eman (Everybody is a rocket scientist...until launch day!)
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To: areafiftyone

You know, it's no wonder the Iranian government doesn't fear us.

The Democratic party is full of buffoons.

They will get lots of us killed to satisfy their lust for power.

Myopic idiots.


7 posted on 05/12/2006 6:04:01 AM PDT by EEDUDE (A penny saved is......a penny Congress overlooked.)
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To: areafiftyone
Conyers finally makes his treachery and anti-American beliefs public ~ (/sarcasm)

And here I'd thought there were Dems out there who wanted the rest of us to believe they were actually patriots.

8 posted on 05/12/2006 6:08:16 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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One wonders how much "financial support" these Democrats receive from Arab donors.

Could it be that they are trying to keep THEIR phone calls to their Arab paymasters "covered-up"?


9 posted on 05/12/2006 6:09:03 AM PDT by pfony1
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Could it be that they are trying to keep THEIR phone calls to their Arab paymasters "covered-up"?

That's a legitimate question.

10 posted on 05/12/2006 6:10:52 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: areafiftyone
If this keeps up, the enemy Democrat Party will, once again, go down the tubes with the words ...

"Who do you feel will better protect the United States from the terrorists?"

... being stated by every Republican running for office.




11 posted on 05/12/2006 6:16:15 AM PDT by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of outthinking our adversaries?)
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To: areafiftyone
If it ever briefly crossed my mind to sit out an election, this action by Democrats has put an end to that thought forever. We must take all possible, legal actions to assure this group never again is entrusted with the security of the USA. They unmistakably stand with foreign enemies who plot to murder our citizens.
12 posted on 05/12/2006 6:22:15 AM PDT by Unmarked Package
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To: areafiftyone

RATS and their friends in what Rush calls, "the drive-by media", will have to re-double their efforts at indoctrinating the American public between now and election day in November. They haven't been able to sway most of them yet, in spite of their daily barrage of manufactured stories, slanted polls, negative "news" and non-stop Bush bashing.

Phone-Records Surveillance Is Broadly Acceptable to Public (ABC Poll)
ABC News ^ | 5/12/06 | Mikey_1962
Posted on 05/12/2006 8:57:25 AM EDT by Mikey_1962
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1631027/posts


13 posted on 05/12/2006 6:23:00 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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Hurray for the Democrats!

You don't really want the Dems to lose their lawsuit, do you? Phone records are nice to have if you are out to get your political opponents, but credit card and bank records are even better if you really want to know who is doing what. The G.W. Orwell administration knows this and they likely have such information on you and all the Dems in Congress by now.

Remember that when the Dems take over in 2009, they could also use the same info to find out what is really going on in the good old VWRC. Can you imagine some of the things that must be said in VWRC phone calls? There must be some way to get a juicy charge out of the VWRC's phone and internet records -- maybe even a way to send some of them to unknown prisons in Eastern Europe.

14 posted on 05/12/2006 6:28:17 AM PDT by MurryMom
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To: pfony1

Conyers and McKinney are two who seem to be verrry friendly with the Arabs.


15 posted on 05/12/2006 6:29:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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Yee-ha, get 'em on record that Bush is trying too hard to protect the American people.

And I guess they are also saying that FDR was way out of line when the "mail planes" landed in the Bahamas (?) both coming and going so that all US overseas mail could be off loaded, read, censored and then sent on - even before we got into WWII?*

(* caller to Rush yesterday gave these details - unfortunately for the libs, there are still people alive who remember these activities)

16 posted on 05/12/2006 6:30:05 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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"One wonders how much "financial support" these Democrats receive from Arab donors."

"Could it be that they are trying to keep THEIR phone calls to their Arab paymasters "covered-up"?"

Arab donors would be the tip of the iceberg. The criminal element gives their support to the RAT party for good reasons. Things like the "Gorelick wall" is one of them.

17 posted on 05/12/2006 6:31:33 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( "History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid." -- Dwight Eisenhower)
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To: areafiftyone
From today's Daily Telegraph....

They could have been stopped

Folks might consider sending the link to their Critters and Senators.

18 posted on 05/12/2006 6:31:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Let's Roll

This is an issue on which the GOP should get on the offensive, and now. Run TV ads making it clear the Dems would weaken America. They just might keep their majorities in Congress with that kind of strategy.


19 posted on 05/12/2006 6:32:12 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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"This is an issue on which the GOP should get on the offensive, and now"

Excellent point. Excuse me Senator, "Are you in favor or against the 'Terrorist Privacy Act'?


20 posted on 05/12/2006 6:41:17 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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