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1 posted on 05/11/2006 5:09:43 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: EternalVigilance; NormsRevenge; SD Republican; SF Republican; slomotion; goldstategop; ...

Conservatives shouldn't panic just yet. There's time to turn this around.

If Busby actually wins, then is the time to panic.


2 posted on 05/11/2006 5:15:33 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Actually, this is good news. Bilbray was slightly behind.

However, here is an example of a "seal-the-borders" guy not doing very well, despite the views here on FR that illegals is THE issue.

(And I sympathize, I'm a seal-the-borders guy: but I don't see it translating yet into election results.)

3 posted on 05/11/2006 5:15:41 PM PDT by LS
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To: Clintonfatigued

Need to keep in mind that Cunningham put a big stink on republicans in this district. This isnt a normal election by any means.


8 posted on 05/11/2006 5:30:26 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: All

Here are a few of the bills Bilbray supported dealing with the border and the illegals when he was in congress in the 1990s.
He was out there early on this issue and is a close the border guy big time.
This is the issue that counts and he is the only republican who can win.
If you vote against him, you are supporting open borders and the illegals.




Co-sponsored bill to stop giving
U.S. citizenship to more than 200,000
‘anchor babies’ of illegal aliens each year 1999-2000.
Rep. Bilbray took a stand against one of the largest sources of U.S. population growth and against one of the strongest incentives for illegal immigration by co-sponsoring H.R.73 (the Bilbray Bill). As a matter of policy for decades, the federal government has granted citizenship to babies born to illegal-alien mothers. This is a pronounced reward to their mothers for having entered or stayed in the United States in violation of immigration laws. Not only do the mothers immediately get access to a whole array of social services for their babies, but these illegal aliens get a virtual guarantee that they will never be asked to leave the country. These babies of illegal aliens are called “anchor babies” because they act as an anchor to eventually pull large extended families into the United States. Rep. Bilbray wants to put an end to this enticement for citizens of other nations to become illegal aliens in this country. H.R.73 would have denied citizenship to babies of women who at the time of giving birth are in the U.S. as illegal aliens, tourists, temporary foreign workers, foreign students and diplomats. The only exception is if the mother is married to the father of the baby, and the father is a U.S. citizen or lawfully admitted permanent resident alien. This will reduce legal U.S. population growth considerably. A California study in 1992 found 96,000 new citizens were added in that year in that state alone through these ‘anchor babies’ of illegal aliens. U.S. Census data on the birthrates of the foreign born indicate that well over 200,000 new citizens are added to the U.S. each year through anchor babies. See detailed description.





Co-sponsored legislation to stop rewarding children
of illegal aliens with citizenship 1997-1998.
Rep. Bilbray co-sponsored H.R. 7, the Citizenship Reform Act of 1997 that would have put an end to the automatic granting of citizenship to babies born to illegal aliens in the United States. This policy grants citizenship to some 200,000 additional people a year according to U.S. Census data. Not only do these births represent additional U.S. population growth, but because the babies of illegal aliens are U.S. citizens, they can then act as 'anchors' to eventually pull a large number of extended family members into the country legally.





Co-sponsored bill to deny citizenship
to ’anchor babies’ of illegal aliens 1995-1996.
In the 104th Congress, Rep. Bilbray joined 44 other Representatives in co-sponsoring H.R.1363 (the Bilbray Bill) to halt the automatic granting of U.S. citizenship to babies born to illegal-alien mothers in the United States. The House leadership did not bring the bill to a vote.



Voted in 2000 to authorize troops on the border.

Rep. Bilbray acted to enforce the border by voting for the Traficant amendment to H.R.4205. This amendment authorizes the Secretary of Defense, under certain circumstances, to assign members of the Armed Forces to assist the INS with border control duties. The Traficant amendment passed by a vote of 243 to 183, but the Clinton Administration never chose to exercise this power.



Signed a letter to Speaker Hastert opposing an illegal alien amnesty in 2000.

Rep. Bilbray, along with 52 other Republican Representatives took a stand against illegal immigration by signing a Dear Colleague letter from Representative Tom Tancredo to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert. The letter expressed opposition to an illegal alien amnesty for more than 2 million illegal aliens in an end-of-session appropriations bill. This show of opposition was an important ingredient in the Speaker taking a firm stand against Pres. Clinton's amnesty and in the ultimate defeat of the proposed amnesty.



Voted to authorize the use of troops on the border in 1999
Rep. Bilbray voted in favor of the Traficant amendment to H.R. 1401. This amendment authorized the Secretary of Defense, under certain circumstances, to assign members of the Armed Forces to assist the Border Patrol and Customs Service only in drug interdiction and counter terrorism activities along our borders. The Traficant amendment passed by a vote of 242 to 181.





Voted to crack down on
illegal immigration in 1996
Rep. Bilbray was part of a 333-87 majority which passed H.R.2202. It was a large omnibus bill with dozens of provisions aimed at reducing illegal immigration. It authorized major increases in the border patrol forces. But it also had many provisions aimed at making life more miserable for illegal aliens who manage to get into the country, half of whom arrive with legal visas but then illegally overstay. Until passage of the bill, a person could be apprehended as an illegal alien, be deported and then turn around and come back to the U.S. on a legal student, tourist, worker or relative visa. After the bill, an illegal alien was barred from any kind of legal entry for 10 years.




Tried to create mandatory workplace verification programs in 1996
Rep. Bilbray was one of only 86 Representatives who took the tougher-on-illegal-immigration side during the voting on the Gallegly Amendment to H.R.2202. He voted IN FAVOR of the amendment which would have made pilot workplace verification programs (see above) mandatory in five of the top seven immigration states. The amendment failed 86-331 under complaints that businesses and states should have more choice in whether they participated in workplace programs to keep illegal aliens from taking jobs.



















11 posted on 05/11/2006 5:33:10 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Hey Congress - We need the BORDER FENCE NOW)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Torie; fieldmarshaldj; HostileTerritory
I've been close to writing Busby off, but if this year is going to be a mirror image of 1994, then I wouldn't be at all surprised if she wins. After I read Charlie Cook's commentary today on the macro versus micro political landscape, I went back and looked at the types of districts that the GOP picked up in 1994. Here's the breakdown in terms of partisan lean.

The GOP defeated 34 DEM incumbents. Of these:

5 were in 60%+ GOP districts
8 were in 55-60% GOP districts
4 were in 50-55% GOP districts
8 were in 45-50% GOP districts
7 were in 40-45% GOP districts
2 were in 39%- GOP districts

In fact, IL-05 was about a 33% GOP district and NJ-08 was about a 36% GOP district. More to the point, of the 34 Dem incumbents that were defeated, exactly half were in Dem leaning districts. 9 were in districts that were less GOP than the current CA-50 district is Dem.

Of the 22 open DEM seats picked up by the GOP, here was the partisan-lean breakdown.

6 were in 60%+ GOP districts
3 were in 55-60% GOP districts
7 were in 50-55% GOP districts
3 were in 45-50% GOP districts
3 were in 40-45% GOP districts

So, although the open seat ratio was more inherently GOP leaning, there were still 6 Dem leaning districts picked up by the GOP. The 4 open seats that were picked up by the Dems all had a strong Dem lean except for MN-06, which was slightly Dem.

And many of these seats were picked up by second or third tier challengers. Of course many of the Dem-leaning seats reverted to the Dems in subsequent elections (14 of the 23, to be exact), but for at least 1994 they were part of the GOP wave.

The reason that I was curious about the 1994 breakdown was because a great number of the competitive GOP seats this year have GOP leans in the low 50s. So, I was wondering to myself if these type of seats (in reverse) did indeed fall to the GOP in the 1994 wave, and sure enough they comprised nearly half of the GOP pick ups of that year. In fact, a good number of Dem-held seats fell to the GOP in 1994 that were more Dem-leaning than just about any competitive GOP-held seat this year is GOP leaning.

It's also worth noting that several of the huge 1994 upsets weren't even on the radar screen in May of that year.

16 posted on 05/11/2006 6:12:44 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Lots of party money coming in from both sides to run negative TV ads. Hoping there will be debates -- Bilbray would do well. The hatchet-faced Busby looks like what many suspect she may be, a lesbian.
19 posted on 05/11/2006 6:21:36 PM PDT by quark
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To: Clintonfatigued
On a brighter note, Dick DeVos pulled ahead of Gov. Jennifer Granholm in the polls in Michigan 46% - 45%. Granholm had a 20% lead six months ago.

Gov. Jen is as dumb as she is cute.
31 posted on 05/11/2006 7:12:56 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: Clintonfatigued

What is the GOP doing to prevent illegal immigrants from voting in this election for Busby and what can it do under California law?


76 posted on 05/11/2006 8:51:55 PM PDT by AJFavish
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To: Clintonfatigued
It all falls on Bush. He has been so inept a communicator that even good news never gets to people. He's alienated the base with this brain-dead amnesty scheme. He knows what we think and doesn't care. He's ignored the issue of fiscal discipline and never found his veto pen.

With the economy doing magnificently, it's simply unacceptable for the GOP to be in the shambles that it is in. They deserve to lose the Senate (not that it makes a difference). The House has been pretty good so it would be a shame to see the House suffer.

I don't believe there's time to turn it around without something dramatic happening.

89 posted on 05/11/2006 9:28:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Don't use illegals: HIREPATRIOTS.COM)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Survey USA Polls are as useful as tits on a bull.


116 posted on 05/12/2006 3:15:19 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That's all they (and us) need--another democrat to fall in lock step with the pelosi mein kampf.


152 posted on 05/14/2006 11:09:26 PM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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