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Think rural, federal Liberals told (Not likely to happen!)
CBC News ^ | 05/06/06

Posted on 05/11/2006 1:41:37 PM PDT by Heartofsong83

Think rural, federal Liberals told Last Updated Sat, 06 May 2006 17:34:30 EDT CBC News Federal Liberals have to shed their image as the party of big business and big cities, according to some Liberal delegates meeting in Toronto this weekend.

The Liberals won only a handful of seats in rural regions, such as southwestern Ontario, in the last election. Most of the party's seats were captured in Canada's three largest cities: Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal.

Much of the work at the party's annual meeting of its Ontario wing has been devoted to rebuilding its base outside of Canada's largest cities.

That is not going to happen unless the party changes, said Tom Manley, who lost to Conservative Guy Lauzon in the eastern Ontario riding of Stormont-Dundas-South Glengarry.

"There's a fear and anger out there in rural Canada," he said, rhyming off areas where Liberal policies are out of sync with rural voters, including firearms registration, land-use regulations and limited support for farmers.

Paul Steckle, the MP for the Ontario riding of Huron-Bruce and the only Liberal from an agricultural riding west of New Brunswick to be re-elected, also stressed the importance of rural policies.

"I can tell you that unless we're prepared as the Liberal Party of Canada to go forward with an agricultural policy where food security becomes as important as national security, we will never move forward."

Only one of the 11 leadership candidates, Nova Scotia MP Scott Brison, is from a rural riding.

Guy Chaplin from Renfrew, Ont., said that makes it all the more important for the party to pay more than lip service to rural issues. His own riding voted Conservative in the past two elections, after years of electing Liberals.

"Essentially in rural Canada, if you don't come knocking, take the trouble to knock on their door, they won't take the trouble to vote for you," he said.

All candidates under one roof

All 11 of the party's leadership candidates descended on Toronto Friday night, looking to win over a large gathering of Ontario party faithful.

About 1,400 party members attended as the candidates came together for the first time. Each had three minutes to make their pitches in English and French.

Many of the hopefuls predicted an election within a year and a swift return to power for the once-unbeatable party.

Former Ontario education minister Gerard Kennedy said the Liberals need to spare the country from another Harper election victory.

"We cannot let Stephen Harper do to Canada what (former premier) Mike Harris did to Ontario," he said.

Hockey legend and former minister Ken Dryden said Liberals need to adopt a positive attitude in order to prevent another Harper election win.

"We have to win. Not maybe win, not like to win. Win."

The Liberals will hold their convention to choose their new leader in Montreal in December.


TOPICS: Canada; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; cities; inyourdreams; liberals; redbluedivide; rural; urban
There is a good reason why they have no support in the hinterlands. Liberal policies such as the gun registry, pillaging farmers, legalized marijuana and gay marriage all are done with the big city voter in mind.

The only agricultural Liberal is a social conservative who is against the gun registry, pro-life and pro-marriage, yet he still only won by about 600 votes.

Yet except for Scott Brison (who is openly gay himself), EVERY one of the candidates for the Liberal leadership comes from the three largest urban areas - mostly Toronto.

1 posted on 05/11/2006 1:41:40 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
Liberals have to shed their image as the party of big business and big cities

Liberals finally admitting they're the party of big business?

I'm shocked... /not

2 posted on 05/11/2006 1:46:50 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: fanfan; GMMAC; Clive

Canada ping!


3 posted on 05/11/2006 1:49:18 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Heartofsong83
Its funny the federal Liberals are talking about renewal in of all places... Toronto!

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

4 posted on 05/11/2006 1:49:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Alexander Rubin; GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; ...

Canada ping.

Please FReepmail me to get on or off this ping list.

5 posted on 05/11/2006 1:54:54 PM PDT by fanfan (FR is the best/biggest news gathering entity in the whole known history of the world. Thanks Jim.)
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To: goldstategop

None of the 11 candidates have any real interest in rural, or Western, politics in Canada. All are really interested in the same urban, hip, progressive vote.

Memo to Steckle: maybe you should cross the floor to the Conservatives? Someone like you will NEVER win the leadership of today's Liberal Party.


6 posted on 05/11/2006 1:54:58 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
Without a national base, the prospects are scant the Liberals will regain power. The days when they could put together majorities out of Quebec and Ontario are gone forever. Nothing remains of the once mighty Liberal machine in Quebec and in Ontario they're losing ground. One has the feeling that, in Ontario, the Liberals are whistling past the graveyard.

(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")

7 posted on 05/11/2006 2:00:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Heartofsong83

Anyone have that pic of John Kerry hunting deer with a shotgun?


8 posted on 05/11/2006 2:47:08 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Heartofsong83
Just because there'a a lot of horseshit when Liberals are around
doesn't mean they're warming up to the farming community...
9 posted on 05/11/2006 2:59:57 PM PDT by CaptainCanada ("Macht doch Eiern Dreck aleene!" (Take care of your own mess!).)
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To: CaptainCanada
Liberals always have relied on big business and immigrants none of which are beyond the city borders. They haven't a hope in Hades to get any votes there.
10 posted on 05/11/2006 4:08:54 PM PDT by styky (All the great things are simple, and many can be expressed in a single word: freedom; justice; honor)
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To: CaptainCanada

Liberals hate farmers. They just tend to zip along the 401 between Toronto and Montreal or Ottawa and ignore everything else they see. They never go out west, except perhaps flying to Vancouver.


11 posted on 05/11/2006 8:51:09 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: fanfan

If Canadian farmers are as conservative as Australian farmers the Liberals have no chance.


12 posted on 05/11/2006 11:39:25 PM PDT by Fair Go
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To: Fair Go

Which they now are. That is why the Liberals are pandering to the big cities, especially ultra-liberal Toronto.


13 posted on 05/12/2006 8:58:02 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
These Canadian liberals in urban Ontario and Quebec will probably find their values are another world from their rural near-neighbours. They don't even get along fully with their ideological friends in Vancouver.
14 posted on 05/12/2006 3:22:40 PM PDT by NZerFromHK (Leftism is like honey mixed with arsenic: initially it tastes good, but that will end up killing you)
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