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Film Ignites the Wrath of Hindu Fundamentalists
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Posted on 05/03/2006 1:15:29 PM PDT by The Lion Roars

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To: wideawake
"Websites with old wives' tales do not make your case for you."

Its the official history buddy taught in schools. Keep living in denial."

The massacre of Hindus by Christian terrorists in North East are also "old wives' tales"?

"By the way, an inquisition can only affect people who are professed Christians, by definition."
So you mean Christians are perfectly justified in killing, torturing, raping and massacreing Heathens and Pagans, cuz Inquisition " by definition " doesn't affect them right?
61 posted on 05/04/2006 9:53:04 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Yo-Yo

Sikkhism itself was born out of Hinduism. Most Sikhs consider Sikkhism as part of Hinduism albeit with its own distinct identity.

BTW Islam also claims to profess equality and brotherhood.


62 posted on 05/04/2006 9:59:12 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Yo-Yo

BBC is an anti-India pro-Pak mouthpiece.

The one responsible for Godhra massacre (Mohammad Hussain Kolota a Muslim) is already arrested.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/2002/03/04/stories/2002030403211100.htm


63 posted on 05/04/2006 10:16:46 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Yo-Yo

Also read this:
http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_News_items/Godhra/godhra052.htm


64 posted on 05/04/2006 10:18:32 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
Its the official history buddy taught in schools.

Oh well, then, if it's the official history taught in schools who am I to argue? We all know that if someone tells a lie inside a classroom it automatically becomes true. Thanks for reminding me.

The massacre of Hindus by Christian terrorists in North East are also "old wives' tales"?

Now this is interesting - I thought we were discussing Goa but now the venue has switched to the Northeast - which masacres are you talking about now?

So you mean Christians are perfectly justified in killing, torturing, raping and massacreing Heathens and Pagans, cuz Inquisition " by definition " doesn't affect them right?

Again, nothing you are alleging actually happened.

And if there truly were an Inquisition, it would have had no authority to do anything to non-Christians. An Inquisition is a court set up specifically to examine Christians on charges of heresy - an inqusitiorial court by definition has no jurisdiction over non-Christians.

65 posted on 05/04/2006 10:26:11 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake
"We all know that if someone tells a lie inside a classroom it automatically becomes true. Thanks for reminding me."
 
Hmmmmmm...... in that case people like you should join the school.
 
I thought we were discussing Goa
 
We were discussing ....."Christianity is the most peaceful religion on this planet".
 
Again, nothing you are alleging actually happened.
 
Ah deny any and everthing that look bad on Christianity. Thats sooooo much like the "Religion of Peace".
BTW these also never happened right?

http://www.hinduhumanrights.org/news/newsarticle011005.html

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_terrorists_massacre_eight_hindus.htm

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/christian_terrorists_kill_44.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/717775.stm

http://www.christianaggression.org/item_display.php?id=1060546733&type=news

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/899422.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/758342.stm

http://www.christianaggression.org/features_nlft.php

But most importantly read this:

http://www.freeindiamedia.com/current_affairs/21_july_current_affairs.htm

And if there truly were an Inquisition, it would have had no authority to do anything to non-Christians. An Inquisition is a court set up specifically to examine Christians on charges of heresy - an inqusitiorial court by definition has no jurisdiction over non-Christians.

As I said............. hide behind sematics to justify killing, torturing, raping and massacreing of Heathens and Pagans.


66 posted on 05/04/2006 10:40:34 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
Have read both links. Please read this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1042100,00.html

67 posted on 05/04/2006 10:45:39 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

Both the articles coming from the British media...... I am not surprised.

Like many foreign media article I have read have reported in great detail the murder of MP Ahsan Jafri. This author simply pick up those details second hand. No doubt Ahsan Jafri's death and the murder of 4000 Muslims were criminal acts, there were close to 1400 Hindus who were also killed.

I am yet to read any article describing their cold blooded murder. I am yet to read any article castigating Muslims or Pakistan for the terror attacks in Akshardham temple in Gujarat. I am also yet to read many articles especially from Guardian or BBC reporting on the genocide of Hindus is Kashmir, Bangladesh or Pakistan which is a thousand times worse then Gujarat.

UK is a dhimmi country. Pakistan was their creation and hence their sympathy for Pakistan. In fact Britain is partly responsible for a few terror attacks in Kashmir.


68 posted on 05/04/2006 11:05:27 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Yo-Yo
And good riddance to Luke Harding. He can go and live in Bradford, Oldham, Burnley, Leeds, Brixton, Toxteth(Liverpool) and Cardiff. These are such beautiful examples of racial and religious harmoney. (/sarc)
69 posted on 05/04/2006 11:36:05 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Gengis Khan
Times of India?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1506682.cms

Your favorite Rediff.com?
http://www.rediff.com/news/2006/feb/09scarred.htm

You and I both abhor violence in any form, so we have much common ground. If Pakistan is a creation of the British, then so is Israel. Look at the mess they made of the Middle East in the same 1947 time frame.

I know that Hindus are not inherently violent, and their support of Bangladesh in her independence from Pakistan shows that they can work with Muslims. I also know that Christians are not blameless, either.

70 posted on 05/04/2006 11:36:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yeah right. The report is by a communist judge. You might want to look at recent events in that state

Muslim Mobs starts a riot and starts killing people when local authorities demolish an illegally constructed mosque

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1516523.cms
http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/may22006/update145833200652.asp

Are you a muslim?? I am sorry but islamic lies wont work anymore.


71 posted on 05/04/2006 12:24:17 PM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

I'm a gora United Methodist living in Michigan, if that makes any difference to the discussions.


72 posted on 05/04/2006 12:31:15 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo

Yeah right. I am Santa Claus. /sarcasm


73 posted on 05/04/2006 1:12:11 PM PDT by The Lion Roars
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The Muslims have started the riots in Vadodara after the Municipal authorities in Vadodara (Gujarat) demolished a wayside Mosque and also a few temples to widen one of the roads after obtaining Court Orders. But regardless of the truth very soon we would be hearing the US and UK media spin doctors holding Hindus responsible for killing Muslims and demolishing a Mosque.
74 posted on 05/04/2006 1:37:33 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Yo-Yo
The feminine is worshipped all over India in various forms. As far as equality among the castes Krishna teaches Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita any person of any caste can reach salvation. Moksha is not dependent upon what caste you are born into but what you do.

You have to go back pretty far to be older than Shiva and his Shakti. Maybe the Sikhs can do that, I don't know, but I doubt it.

75 posted on 05/04/2006 2:03:49 PM PDT by ARridgerunner
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To: Gengis Khan
But regardless of the truth very soon we would be hearing the US and UK media spin doctors holding Hindus responsible for killing Muslims and demolishing a Mosque.

What about your spin doctors? Indis is a dhimmi country and I am sure you have tons of them. Stop blaming us. It is your own people that you need to worry about. Grow a spine and stand up to islamic terror. We have our lib brigade that tries its best to stop the WOT and I am sure liberal a*** round the world help them. Fortunatley we had a John Ashcroft to counter them. Find your Ashcroft. I see that hindus assume that everyone has a duty to come and fight for them. Sorry. Fight your own battles. We are willing to help you IF YOU FIGHT. But we cant come and fight your battles for you. About the lib media spinning round stories. That is a fact. Learn to live with it. Let that not be an excuse to become a dhimmi state.

76 posted on 05/04/2006 2:18:57 PM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: Yo-Yo
If Pakistan is a creation of the British, then so is Israel. Look at the mess they made of the Middle East in the same 1947 time frame

You call the creation of israel a mess?? Thanks for letting us know where you stand. I can smell a koran already.

77 posted on 05/04/2006 2:21:16 PM PDT by The Lion Roars
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To: The Lion Roars

Sheesh, Gengis accuses the British of being Muslim lovers for creating Pakistan, and I simply counter that they also created Israel, which is quite the opposite.

And sorry, no Q'ran here. But by your name calling, I can see how secular violence in India can easily erupt.


78 posted on 05/04/2006 2:29:14 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: The Lion Roars

What about your spin doctors? Indis is a dhimmi country and I am sure you have tons of them. Stop blaming us. It is your own people that you need to worry about. Grow a spine and stand up to islamic terror. We have our lib brigade that tries its best to stop the WOT and I am sure liberal a*** round the world help them. Fortunatley we had a John Ashcroft to counter them. Find your Ashcroft. I see that hindus assume that everyone has a duty to come and fight for them. Sorry. Fight your own battles. We are willing to help you IF YOU FIGHT. But we cant come and fight your battles for you. About the lib media spinning round stories. That is a fact. Learn to live with it. Let that not be an excuse to become a dhimmi state.

Whoa! You seem to be to emotionally overwhelmed to make any case at all. When one thinks with his arse instead of his brains what is likely to come out is crap. If there are liberals in your country and in your media who apply "the spin" to every story then its not my fault that I call it as I see it. Dont make it another unnecessary India versus US issue. My point was that Hindus being responsible for Gujarat riots is a blatant western media lie and my arguement still holds.

And India is not a Dhimmi country, its the second largest Islamic country. And before you tell us to grow a spine and fight our own battles etc etc why dont you go back and have a look at the number of Muslims, Hindus have killed in Gujarat, Bombay, Ayodhya, Kashmir, the rest of India, 1965, 1971,Kargil etc etc. and then grow a b@ll or two and come back and tell me how you are doing with all your ACLU, CAIR and your liberal PC brigade.


79 posted on 05/04/2006 4:36:30 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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To: Yo-Yo

" But by your name calling, I can see how secular violence in India can easily erupt."

The Lion Roars is one of yours......
American.


80 posted on 05/04/2006 4:40:23 PM PDT by Gengis Khan
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