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MP3 Murderers Said to Be Polish Gypsies (on PC insane Belgium)
Brussels Journal ^ | 26 April 2006 | Paul Belien

Posted on 04/26/2006 10:37:52 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy

In today’s edition, the Belgian newspaper Het Nieuwsblad writes that it has learned from its sources that the 16-year old boy who was arrested earlier this week for the murder of 17-year old Joe Van Holsbeeck, is called Marius. He belongs to a family of Polish gypsies who have been living in Belgium illegally since 2000. Marius was studying garage mechanics at a school in Anderlecht, a Brussels suburb, where he was arrested on Monday evening at 4:30 pm. His teachers had recognized him on the footage of security cameras in Brussels Central Station. Marius had already been involved in four cases of robbery and robbery with violence.

Marius’s accomplice, who according to Marius is the man who actually stabbed Joe when the latter did not hand over his MP3 player, had come over from Poland for the Easter holidays. He is also a minor but has since returned to Poland where the police is currently hunting for him.

If the story in Het Nieuwsblad is correct, one has to conclude that despite living in Belgium without official papers, Marius and his family had not been expelled by the authorities, not even after he started his career in crime. Last month Belgium’s Cardinal Godfried Danneels called upon the Belgians to participate in a protest demonstration in favour of “people without official papers.” After the murder the Cardinal blamed the “indifference” of the Belgians, who, he said during his Easter sermon, had not interfered to stop Joe from being stabbed. The Cardinal also said that the murder was caused by the greed of Western society “where people get killed for an MP3 player.” Prime Minister Guy Verhofstadt also blamed Belgian society for its indifference, while other politicians from the government parties blamed capitalism.

Yesterday and today leftist commentators and journalists – and even civil servants of the Belgian Justice Department – openly mocked the Catholic Church and conservative Catholics because Joe’s murderers have turned out to be Poles, countrymen of the former Pope, and not North Africans.

The Belgian authorities, who immediately after the murder had announced that the murderers were North Africans, have apologized to the North African community. Muslim organizations, however, are demanding formal apologies from politicians and journalists who, assuming that the official information of the Justice Department was correct, wrote about the problem of North African criminality in Brussels. Fouad Ahidar, a Moroccan-born member of parliament, had said that something urgently needed to be done about the Muslim street gangs. “There is a growing group of criminal Moroccan and Turkish youths who go after victims who look like infidels. We have to fight racism in all its varieties, whether by the immigrants or the native community,” he said.

Yesterday Laurette Onkelinx, the far-left Belgian minister of Justice, said that “those who have wrongly stigmatised an ethnic community will have to search their own consciences.” It is noteworthy, however, that the Vlaams Belang, the main opposition party and one with a firm stance on immigration and law and order, kept a low profile during the past two weeks. Its leaders hardly commented on the Van Holsbeeck case. Nevertheless, it looks as if the Van Holsbeeck case will turn into an opportunity for the leftwing Belgian regime to crack down on so-called “racists” and “islamophobes.” Today, in the Dutch newspaper Trouw, Glenn Audenaert of the Brussels federal police comments: “Now I understand how anti-semitism was able to creep into our homes in the thirties.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; belgium; dhimmitude; gypsies; illegalaliens; immigration; morocco; muslims; northafrica; poland
Complicated story that has rocked Belgium society. Last Saturday 80 000 people demonstrated in Brussels, demanding that the police protect ordinary citizens against criminal youth gangs - mostly of North African origin- who has been allowed to run gamut in Brussels and other Belgian towns.

As Dr Belien describes, it was initially thought that the murder had been committed by North African (muslim) youths. Even the Dept of Justice (in Belgium and France it is the prosecutors who run the police investigations) claimed the murderers were North Africans.

However, now when it appears that it was Polish gypsies instead, there will be a backlash against all those who fight the Islamofascists and muslim street gangs in Belgium.

Despite the fact that the perpetrators were illegal aliens, it appears more than likely that there will follow a torrent of PC propaganda and possibly legislation as well. Once again Vlams Belang (formerly Vlams Bloc) will be threatened.

Democracy at work in Belgium - and soon to come to the rest of EU.

Plenty more threads regarding this case on the BrusselsJournal site.

For those who want to see the perps, a video the police released (and later withdrew, since it is forbidden to show pictured of underage criminals - and that will threaten Belgium web-sites who don't comply by taking the pictures of their sites) can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUE92HRy2Dg&search=belgium

1 posted on 04/26/2006 10:37:57 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy
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To: ScaniaBoy
demanding that the police protect ordinary citizens against criminal youth gangs - mostly of North African origin- who has been allowed to run gamut in Brussels and other Belgian towns

What fools. Demonstrate for the police to protect you? What sheep. Buy and gun AND PROTECT YOURSELF AND FAMILY. Oh, never mind, they lost that right a long time ago to make the streets safer...

2 posted on 04/26/2006 10:44:49 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: ScaniaBoy
The Cardinal also said that the murder was caused by the greed of Western society “where people get killed for an MP3 player.”

Waah! Root cause! The murder, folks, was NOT caused by the individual perp's violent behavior, but by everyone else's desire for material possessions. Hear that, kids? YOUR greed caused this murder. Not just his, yours.

< /SARC >

3 posted on 04/26/2006 10:48:25 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: 2banana

And the irony is that Belgium is a major center of firearms manufacture.

Her citizens can make them, but not own them!


4 posted on 04/26/2006 10:51:41 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: ScaniaBoy
"... However, now when it appears that it was Polish gypsies instead, there will be a backlash against all those who fight the Islamofascists and muslim street gangs in Belgium."

What the hell is the difference?

They're arguing over which two classes of people who don't even belong in Belgium are responsible for street crime?

Consider this farcial argument:

Belgian 1: "How horrible! My grandmother has just been killed on the subway in Antwerp by a crocodile!"

Belgian 2: "You racist! These are not the bite marks of a crocodile! They are clearly that of a Bengal Tiger!"

Belgian 3: "Yes, I now admit that you are right. I apologize to all crocodiles I may have offended with my racism!"

American 1: "How come you Belgians allow crocodiles and tigers to run loose on the streets of Antwerp, and where the hell did they come from?!"

5 posted on 04/26/2006 10:54:15 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi!)
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American 1: "How come you Belgians allow crocodiles and tigers to run loose on the streets of Antwerp, and where the hell did they come from?!"

And why the heck aren't you shooting them...

6 posted on 04/26/2006 11:04:20 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: 2banana; The KG9 Kid

Your replies---LOL!!!!

GREAT AND THANKS!

About weapons - the Belgians aren't even allowed to posses pepper spray (according to another thread by Belien). Don't know what happens if you go around with powdered pepper in your pockets.

After all the only thing the Belgians still are good at is their cooking. Maybe you have to be a registered chef or something.


7 posted on 04/26/2006 11:22:05 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Death for death


8 posted on 04/26/2006 11:35:43 AM PDT by MarcinPL
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