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Infantry transformed by new tools, training
GOVEXEC.com ^ | April 24, 2006 | Sydney J. Freedberg Jr.,

Posted on 04/25/2006 6:31:44 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

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To: ibheath
Not many gun bunnies get to be artillery anymore. They should feel lucky they weren't reclassed as MP's.
21 posted on 04/25/2006 7:28:45 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group)
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To: tonycavanagh; Citizen Tom Paine

Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife Counterinsurgency Lessons from Malaya and Vietnam
University of Chicago Press ^ | John A. Nagl

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Posted on 03/21/2006 8:40:22 AM CST by Valin


Learning to Eat Soup with a Knife Counterinsurgency Lessons from Malaya and Vietnam John A. Nagl

Preface to the Paperback Edition Spilling Soup on Myself


22 posted on 04/25/2006 7:35:32 AM PDT by Valin (Purple Fingers Rule!)
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To: neverdem

Article ping


23 posted on 04/25/2006 8:04:02 AM PDT by Tares
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

ping


24 posted on 04/25/2006 8:55:01 AM PDT by Cruz
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To: All
The End of Battle
25 posted on 04/25/2006 12:41:39 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group)
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To: af_vet_rr; ALOHA RONNIE; American in Israel; American Soldier; archy; armymarinemom; bad company; ..

ping


26 posted on 04/25/2006 12:43:13 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Thanks. Great post.


27 posted on 04/25/2006 12:44:59 PM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: ducks1944; Ragtime Cowgirl; Alamo-Girl; ziggy_dlo; TrueBeliever9; maestro; TEXOKIE; My back yard; ..
Staff Sgt. Robert Colón, another instructor at Benning and, like Williams, a veteran of Iraq, tells his recruits that they have to get it right, because the unpredictability of warfare in Iraq might suddenly put them in the lead.

"Over there, I've had privates save my life. I've saved my privates' lives. It's just the way it goes," Colón said. "Get rid of the whole 'I'm just a private' mentality, because it just doesn't protect you from bullets," he said. "In the battle of Falluja, we lost our battalion sergeant major, our Alpha Company commander. At any given time, a private's going to have to step up to be a leader."

28 posted on 04/25/2006 12:49:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Ramadi, Iraq 2006 Photos by Michael Fumento; Copyright 2006 Michael Fumento

21st Century Infantry

29 posted on 04/25/2006 12:52:20 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 04/25/2006 1:04:24 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

It always comes back to boots on the ground, doesn't it?


31 posted on 04/25/2006 1:14:05 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
In the 1990s, the Army's mantra was," 'The book says -- the book says,' " he recalled. "Now it's, 'What's your experience in Iraq?' "

“The book says -- the book says” was also the mantra in the 1980s, 1970s and 1960s. I learned to really dislike The Book.
During the Viet Nam War all soldiers deploying overseas had to go through a short training course “to prepare you for Viet Nam”. The two times I took these courses after my first combat tour were real eye openers. I learned that the people here had no idea whatsoever of what was happening over there – and don’t even try to correct them or offer advice.

After a cease-fire cut short that first assault on Falluja in April 2004, Maj. Farnum recalled, "one of the first things that the insurgents requested was that the Marine Corps pull out all the snipers from Falluja. They thought we had snipers everywhere. But it was regular marines, trained in combat marksmanship, with the advanced combat optics."

Great!
32 posted on 04/25/2006 1:41:43 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Technology that works. Its a pleasant change.


33 posted on 04/25/2006 8:53:08 PM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I never answer the phone.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4; All

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Pictures of our Infantry's brand new tools-1965


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34 posted on 04/25/2006 9:00:47 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Great article, reminds me of this old quote:

…[Y]ou may fly over a land forever; you may bomb it, atomize it, pulverize it and wipe it clean of life—but if you desire to defend it, protect it, and keep it for civilization, you must do this on the ground, the way the Roman legions did, by putting your young men into the mud.

T.R. Fehrenbach This Kind of War

35 posted on 04/26/2006 9:16:18 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
My copy of that book is 30 years old now. I was looking at the CSA's reading list and didn't see it listed. Too bad.

Our young men are getting too precious to get muddy and bloody.

36 posted on 04/26/2006 11:52:40 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group)
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To: Grendel9
They stopped evolving as their final years of retirement loomed large on the horizon.

I don't know if you're in the military, but what you've just described is surprisingly endemic in the rest of the military. In the Stryker Brigade we do things differently than most (if not all) of the rest of the Army as a means of expediting and maximizing our flexibility.

The resistance to these differences we encountered at NTC was appalling.

The NCO who said the only answer used to be "the book...the book" is very right. The Army has changed a lot in just a few years, but it still has a ways to go, and a lot of "entrenched management" to get around.

37 posted on 04/26/2006 8:04:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I agree. And I also suggest the
changes at the lowest level of
training have to be a positive
credited to Bush's choice of
Rusfeld continuing in the job.
The old Generals don't care to
read up on new chapter insertions!


38 posted on 04/28/2006 1:57:08 PM PDT by Grendel9 (u ()
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