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Eyewitness account on United Flight 735
FlyerTalk.com ^ | April 4th, 2006 | "Starwood Nut"

Posted on 04/23/2006 1:10:11 AM PDT by FreedomCalls

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To: FreedomCalls
Sound like the pilot did a tactical approach, coming in off initial point at about 3,000' or so, then then executed a 45 degree left hand back off the "perch" to landing. Done all the time in other aircraft, as in training (we did them in T-37s, T-38s, C-21s, C-20s, C-17s, etc).

In addition to all of this fun the pinned man starting making the most horrible wretching sounds as if he was vomiting. Loud sounds and several expressed concern about keeping him off of his back so he wouldn't choke. He apparently did not vomit but it all added to the weirdness.

It sounds like the guy was possessed.

21 posted on 04/23/2006 4:47:57 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
This is a bit of a segway:

A segue is a smooth transition from one topic to another.

22 posted on 04/23/2006 4:50:54 AM PDT by edpc
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To: FreedomCalls

bttt


23 posted on 04/23/2006 4:55:56 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: FreedomCalls

OMG!! How horrible an experience...thank GOD for good people.


24 posted on 04/23/2006 4:56:58 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy
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To: Blueflag

When I was in Charleston, SC, I saw C5A drivers do some things that scared the "insert word" out of me and I was on the ground.


25 posted on 04/23/2006 5:24:17 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist
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To: FreedomCalls
A few days ago, a retired pilot from Raleigh called in to Rush Limbaugh and said that since 9/11, if anyone attempts to hijack an American plane, the passengers will repeat Flight 93.

He's right. This incident demonstrates that.

And this is metaphorical. Note tagline.

26 posted on 04/23/2006 5:37:20 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America. R.I.P., Todd Beamer.)
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To: Savage Beast

Concur. I don't care if the hijackers have guns. Everyone knows the score now. Crashing the plane is 100% lethal, bullet wounds aren't.


27 posted on 04/23/2006 5:50:41 AM PDT by SampleMan
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

Great read - thanks for posting it.


28 posted on 04/23/2006 5:56:40 AM PDT by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: SampleMan
"Everyone knows the score now."

Absolutely. And if America's enemies think Americans are lacking in courage--or any other virtues--they're in for a wretched awakening!

The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America! R.I.P., Todd Beamer. Be forewarned, enemies of America!

29 posted on 04/23/2006 5:56:42 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Democrat Party: Goneril and Regan on a national scale!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Thanks for the info, a factual account of an incident as seen by an eyewitness. I couldn't detect any bias! I could NOT figure out who was pro-Bush, anti-Bush, politically-correct or incorrect. I'm left unsure about what I should be FEELING about the man with a camera in his stomach! Argggghhh...am I to decide for MYSELF what to think?

It was like the Old-Time Journalism, reminding me of newspaper articles I read about the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. Keep up the GREAT work...you might just start a new trend in reportage!!

30 posted on 04/23/2006 6:08:02 AM PDT by O Neill (Aye, Katie Scarlett, the ONLY thing that lasts is the land...)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
I saw C5A drivers do some things that scared the "insert word" out of me and I was on the ground.

Catching Bill & Hillary "doing it" together can have the same effect.

Nuk-Nuk.

31 posted on 04/23/2006 6:18:16 AM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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To: Jeff Chandler
"I have a camera in my stomach"


32 posted on 04/23/2006 6:20:25 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Blueflag

I had a Naval aviator on a joint assignment with the Air Force express his awe that an entire Air Force squadron was able to deploy on short notice with no maintenance delays. Seemed the Navy mx wasn't up to snuff.


33 posted on 04/23/2006 6:31:48 AM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: saganite

Brave stuff and appropriate, the pilots have no idea if there are more nutcases or terrorists on board.

I overheard two pilots talking about a "sporty landing" in an airport elevator once and asked them what it was.

Turns out that the pilots love any out of the ordinary landing or deviation that results in fighter plane like moves that are unexpected and necessary (otherwise they get spanked by the bosses)

Think about it... why did pilots learn to fly? To do cool stuff in airplanes. Commercial pilots are flying buses, slow and steady. It is like going from a motorcyle or sports car to a city bus.

Nice to know these guys have the chops to do this stuff and that we make planes that can handle it.

When I fly I always take a stroll down the aisle and check out who I am flying with. Whoops am I profiling? Sure I am.
I like my life and being alive.

Bravo and three cheers to the passengers and the pilots.


34 posted on 04/23/2006 6:43:11 AM PDT by icemaniceman
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To: JennysCool

lol


35 posted on 04/23/2006 7:48:09 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep")
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To: icemaniceman
>>>>"I overheard two pilots talking about a "sporty landing"<<<<

The Airline Pilots "Bread and Butter" is smooth take offs and landings, avoiding turbulence and basically providing a stress free flight.
Now having said that I have thousands of hours flying with Airline Pilots in the Naval Reserve. You will also find out that these Pilots also enjoy short runways, expedited climbs, Air shows and pretending that their Patrol Aircraft is a Fighter.

It's all good!
TT
36 posted on 04/23/2006 9:51:40 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Kozak

Yeah ..... but they all flare to land.


37 posted on 04/23/2006 10:03:23 AM PDT by skeptoid (I'm both skeptic AND paranoid.)
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To: edpc
re: "segway"

RLOL... education is a scary thing. I like to avoid scary things. But I usually do a better job editing my BLOGs.

Thanks.

38 posted on 04/23/2006 11:54:09 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: saganite
I had a Naval aviator on a joint assignment with the Air Force express his awe that an entire Air Force squadron was able to deploy on short notice with no maintenance delays. Seemed the Navy mx wasn't up to snuff.

==============================================================================

Maybe.

On the other hand, as a professional Navy logistics puke who has deployed in land, sea, and "purple suited" in USAF, USMC, and USA units, I can tell you that the operating environment of Naval Air is unlike anything else in the world. With four years of expeditionary war, the USAF is just now approaching the type of deployability that the Navy has excelled at for nearly 70 years.

Shouldn't compare apples and oranges in logistics, and the same applies for the pilot training, flight profiles, and the aircraft. USAF guys generally out perform USN and USMC guys in air to air combat, while they underperform in other areas. There's no difference in the talent and skill levels; it's all about the training and mission profiles. Congress and Pentagon bean-counters continually want to merge logistics and mission capabilities of the services, but something is always lost in the process.

Enough of the "off-topic" post, I guess...

SFS

39 posted on 04/23/2006 12:05:19 PM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone

The bottom line is we're all on the same team.


40 posted on 04/23/2006 12:25:20 PM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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