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ACLU unable to oust patrolling Minutemen
http://www.azstarnet.com/ ^ | 04.19.2006 | Brady McCombs

Posted on 04/19/2006 11:36:45 AM PDT by Icelander

The American Civil Liberties Union's attempt to get the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers off state trust land fizzled out Tuesday.
 
Last week, the ACLU's Ray Ybarra contacted the Arizona State Land Department about the group's presence on state trust land without permits.
 
On Monday evening, a resource area manager from the Arizona State Land Department visited the volunteers, who are carrying out a monthlong patrol south of Three Points on a private ranch off Arizona 86, both groups concurred. From there, the stories stray a bit.
 
Stacey O'Connell, Arizona chapter president of the Minutemen, said the issue was resolved that evening when some of the volunteers showed valid permits and those without promised to get them online.
 
"Nobody was escorted off state land, nobody was asked to leave," O'Connell said.
Ybarra said he heard radio communications as the resource area manager told the group that it needed state permits, even with permission from the ranch owner, to be on state trust land.
 
On Tuesday, deputy state Land Commissioner Richard Hubbard called it a misunderstanding by the employee. He said the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps volunteers were invited by the landowners to do ranch work in addition to their patrols, which gives them the right to be there.
 
"They are authorized to be there under the terms of the lease," Hubbard said.
Ranch owner Pat King, whose ranch includes some state trust land that she leases, said she has a contract with the group for the volunteers to monitor cattle, pick up trash and fix fences on her property, King's Anvil Ranch.
 
She called the ACLU members misguided, out-of-town youngsters who don't understand what people- and drug smugglers have done to her land and the valley.
"Those American Civil Liberties Union persons up there are not concerned about me at all," King said. "So they are not really the American Civil Liberties Union are they? Because they don't give a darn about what has happened to my constitutional rights to property."
 
Ybarra and about 60 other volunteers have been monitoring the Minuteman volunteers since they began their patrol April 1. The wrangling is the latest in a series of nonphysical skirmishes between the groups.
 
Ybarra says the volunteers shine high-powered flashlights on them as they drive by. O'Connell accuses the ACLU of berating and harassing them on their patrols and of interfering with Border Patrol apprehensions. He said the group will consider legal action.
Ybarra said he will continue to investigate the state permit law and called the series of events Monday and Tuesday suspicious.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: aclu; aliens; arizona; borders; commies; enemywithin; immigrantlist; minutemen; mmp
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1 posted on 04/19/2006 11:36:48 AM PDT by Icelander
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To: Icelander

"So they are not really the American Civil Liberties Union are they? Because they don't give a darn about what has happened to my constitutional rights to property."
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Amen sister.


2 posted on 04/19/2006 11:39:07 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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To: Icelander

   Antonio Villaraigosa Los Angeles Mayor

 

3 posted on 04/19/2006 11:39:58 AM PDT by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: Icelander
So they are not really the American Civil Liberties Union are they? Because they don't give a darn about what has happened to my constitutional rights to property."

No truer words...

4 posted on 04/19/2006 11:41:30 AM PDT by FOG724 (http://nationalgrange.org/legislation/phpBB2/index.php)
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To: Icelander

Ok. I get it. Illegals shouldn't be harassed along the border, but card-carrying born Americans should be removed. Its no wonder we are laughed at.


5 posted on 04/19/2006 11:41:37 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Icelander

The ACLU should drop the "A" and buy a clue.


6 posted on 04/19/2006 11:43:03 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA

MCLU


7 posted on 04/19/2006 11:44:52 AM PDT by Icelander (Legal Resident Since 2004)
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To: HiJinx

ping


8 posted on 04/19/2006 11:45:07 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Icelander
Yet the lefty gov of AZ veto's a bill that would make illegal's trespassers in AZ.

Never mind the criminals, go after the lawful American citizens.

I no can longer recognize the country of my birth, so much for the dream, look forward to the coming nightmare.
9 posted on 04/19/2006 11:47:56 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Icelander

"Ybarra said he will continue to investigate the state permit law and called the series of events Monday and Tuesday suspicious."

The only thing suspicious here is why the ACLU volunteers haven't been arrested.


10 posted on 04/19/2006 11:48:33 AM PDT by FearNoMan
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To: Icelander

Because they don't give a darn about what has happened to my constitutional rights to property."




Sweetheart, if the ACLU had their way, you wouldn't own property anyway. We'd all be working a collective for the government.


11 posted on 04/19/2006 11:53:57 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: Icelander

ACLU will do anything to subver America. Permits for Minutemen but no care fore those breaking the law by entering the country?


12 posted on 04/19/2006 11:59:14 AM PDT by jw777
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To: Icelander

My fellow Jews at the ACLU do more to stoke anti-Semitism in the US than any other organization. Thanks.


13 posted on 04/19/2006 12:11:33 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Icelander
"Those American Civil Liberties Union persons up there are not concerned about me at all," King said. "So they are not really the American Civil Liberties Union are they? Because they don't give a darn about what has happened to my constitutional rights to property."

bump

14 posted on 04/19/2006 12:15:59 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Icelander

THE ACLU is the Commies HQ in America!


15 posted on 04/19/2006 12:20:10 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: Icelander

"Last week, the ACLU's Ray Ybarra contacted the Arizona State Land Department about the group's presence on state trust land without permits. "

American citizens on this land without permits irritates them. Foreign invaders on this land without permits makes them want to run to court to defend the trespassers...


16 posted on 04/19/2006 12:24:54 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Icelander

Is there a law firm or lawyer brave enough or greedy enough to bring a class action civil rights suit againt the ACLU? Going after their dues payers would = $,$$$,$$$,$$$


17 posted on 04/19/2006 12:25:17 PM PDT by fella (Respect does not equal fear unless your a tyrant.)
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To: Icelander

Do the illegals who cross over the ranch on their way into America have permission be on on state trust land without permits?


18 posted on 04/19/2006 12:29:26 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: pabianice

No truer words were ever spoken...unfortunately.


19 posted on 04/19/2006 12:33:22 PM PDT by Fruit of the Spirit
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To: Icelander

ACLU=American Communist Liberation Unit!!


20 posted on 04/19/2006 12:48:45 PM PDT by Thunder90
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