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Carpe Mañana ('Can we kill 'em tomorrow?'): The (bill + hillary) clinton Terrorism Policy
The New York Sun, WCBS NEWSRADIO 880 | 4.19.06 | Mia T

Posted on 04/19/2006 12:16:19 AM PDT by Mia T

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Mia T. Bump.


21 posted on 04/19/2006 2:59:00 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Mia T
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio: “I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer”

Wow! What a guy, sounds just like the other Democrat, Harry Reid – “We killed the Patriot Act!”…… Socialists and stupid to the core.

Keeping America safe is not in the Democratic play book…………………..

22 posted on 04/19/2006 3:22:37 AM PDT by yoe (Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright did what with the UAE?!! - and Hillary didn't know?)
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To: Mia T

Hillary and Bill are the Anti-Christ's preshow.


23 posted on 04/19/2006 3:44:46 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?;))
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To: Mia T
“Can we kill'em tomorrow?”

The phrase makes no sense in terms of foreign policy. Try applying it in contemporary history and it's comes off as brazen arrogance... a snide quip... the cheeky insolence of an adolescent.

However... it would make a great subtitle for 'Downside Legacy'.

24 posted on 04/19/2006 4:26:55 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: Mia T
Anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-life, anti-father, anti-husband, anti-man speaks.

Bill & Hillary Clinton have much more in common with terrorism than we do.

25 posted on 04/19/2006 4:28:57 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Mia T

Bill and Hilary Clinton: Jesuit products for the destruction of Protestant America.


26 posted on 04/19/2006 4:45:00 AM PDT by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: Mia T

When Bill Clinton said "Can we kill them tomorrow" what did he reallly mean.

Some would say he was recognizing our ability to destroy any enemy....

I would say He was recognizing that he didn't have the courage to do so without overwhelming public support to give him enough spine to order our troops into battle, and that he decided that a future president would have to do the job later for the nation when the nation called for action.

Or in short it wasn't Monica that was hiding under the desk in the Oval Office while terrorists attacked us, it was Bill .


27 posted on 04/19/2006 4:52:15 AM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: Mia T
"You WILL obey!!!"
28 posted on 04/19/2006 5:07:31 AM PDT by memorandum1
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To: usmcobra

Great comments!


When Bill Clinton said "Can we kill them tomorrow" what did he reallly mean.

Some would say he was recognizing our ability to destroy any enemy....--usmcobra

If he was referring to our ability to destroy any enemy--axiomatic under any circumstances--then his little 'test' is, obviously, tautological and empty.

NOTE: Another possibility exists, that he was referring to whether we have the luxury of time to wait to take out our enemy; but that possibility is negated by the circumstances, i.e.,

  • We now know the State Department warned clinton in July 1996 that bin Laden's move to Afghanistan would give him an even more dangerous haven, that bin Laden sought to expand radical Islam "well beyond the Middle East," that bin Laden in Afghanistan "could prove more dangerous to US interests... almost worldwide." (NOTE: clinton was offered bin Laden on a silver platter in 1996)
  • Bin Laden had repeatedly declared war on America, committed acts of war against America.

When terrorists declare war on you…and then proceed to kill you… you are, perforce, at war. At that point, you really have only one decision to make: Do you fight… or do you surrender?

In spite of himself, clinton was a wartime president. The problem is, he surrendered.

Preemptively.

You might say the clinton approach to The War on Terror was the perverse obverse of The Bush Doctrine.

The sorry endpoint of this massive, 8-year clinton blunder (' I always asked the same question for eight years: 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?') was, of course, 9/11 and the exponential growth of al Qaeda.

What an abject failure. What a repulsive, self-serving danger to America. How could the Left is even toy with the idea of a clinton sequel?7

I would say He was recognizing that he didn't have the courage to do so without overwhelming public support to give him enough spine to order our troops into battle, and that he decided that a future president would have to do the job later for the nation when the nation called for action.

Or in short it wasn't Monica that was hiding under the desk in the Oval Office while terrorists attacked us, it was Bill .--usmcobra

A brilliant turn of phrase. ;)

The cowardice of bill clinton as a factor is a given. But there was an equally significant force driving clinton's feckless inaction (and feckless action)--THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. (Only this past week, clinton once again confirmed its importance. We are talking about a very sick, dysfunctional couple here.)

Madeleine Albright captured the essence of this dysfunctional presidency best when she explained why clinton couldn't go after bin Laden.

According to Richard Miniter, the Albright revelation occurred at the cabinet meeting that would decide the disposition of the USS Cole bombing by al Qaeda [that is to say, that would decide to do what it had always done when a "bimbo" was not spilling the beans on the clintons: Nothing]. Only Clarke wanted to retaliate militarily for this unambiguous act of war.

Albright explained that a [sham] Mideast accord would yield [if not peace for the principals, surely] a Nobel Peace Prize for clinton. Kill or capture bin Laden and clinton could kiss the 'accord' and the Peace Prize good-bye.

If clinton liberalism, smallness, cowardice, corruption, perfidy--and, to borrow a phrase from Andrew Cuomo, clinton cluelessness--played a part, it was, in the end, the Nobel Peace Prize that produced the puerile pertinacity that enabled the clintons to shrug off terrorism's global danger.

(For more info, see discussion of clinton's curious explanation of the missile strike at Kandahur6 that took out a phalanxlike formation of... empty tents... and allowed bin Laden (and the Mideast Muslim ego) to escape unscathed.)



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The Left's Fatally Flawed "Animal Farm" Mentality
(Why America Must NEVER AGAIN Elect a Democrat President)

by Mia T, 6.04.04

The Bush Doctine is built on two pillars, one -- that the United States must maintain its absolute military superiority in every part of the world, and second -- that the United States has the right for preemptive action.

Now, both these propositions, taken on their own, are quite valid propositions, but if you put them together, they establish two kinds of sovereignty in the world, the sovereignty of the United States, which is inviolate, not subject to any international constraints, and the rest of the world, which is subject to the Bush Doctrine.

To me, it is reminiscent to [sic] George Orwell's "Animal Farm," that "All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

George Soros




eorge Soros could not have more clearly enunciated the lethal danger that he and John Kerry and the clintons and the rest of his leftist cabal pose for America.

Yesterday, at the "progressive," i.e., ultra-extremist left-wing liberal, "Take Back America" confab, Mr. Soros confirmed the obvious: 9/11 was dispositive for the Dems; that is, 9/11 accelerated what eight years of the clintons had set into motion, namely, the demise of a Democratic party that is increasingly irrelevant, unflinchingly corrupt, unwaveringly self-serving, chronically moribund and above all, lethally, seditiously dangerous.

"All animals are created equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

Apparently missing the irony, George Soros chastised America with these words even as he was trying his $25,000,000, 527-end-run damnedest to render himself "more equal than others" in order to foist his radical, paranoic, deadly dementia on an entire nation.

"Animal Farm" is George Orwell's satirical allegory of the Russian Revolution; but it could just as easily be the story of the Democratic Party of today, with the

Kennedy-Pelosi-Gore-clinton (either--"one for the price of two," I say) -Sulzberger-Soros-Moore construct

its porcine manifestation.

SOROS TSURIS

Soros' little speech reveals everything we need to know about the Left, to wit:

  • its naivete about the War on Terror,
  • its preference for demagoguery over rational argument, and ideology and reacquisition of power over national security,
  • its mindset, which is inextricably bound to its failed, tortuous, reckless schemes, relics of a different time, a different war and a different enemy.

Soros is correct when he states that each of the two pillars of the Bush Doctine--the United States maintenance of absolute military superiority and the United States right of preemptive action--are "valid propositions" [in a post-9/11 world].

But when he proceeds from there to argue that the validity of each of these two [essential] pillars is somehow nullified by the resultant unequalled power that these two pillars, when taken together, vest in the United States, rational thought and national-security primacy give way to dogmatic Leftist neo-neoliberal ideology.

 

What is, in fact, "inviolate" here is the neo-neoliberal doctrine of U.S. sovereignty, which states simply that there must be none, that we must yield our sovereignty to the United Nations. Because this Leftist tenet is inviolate, and because it is the antithesis of the concept of U.S. sovereignty enunciated by the Bush Doctrine and the concept of U.S. sovereignty required by the War on Terror, rabid Leftists like Soros conclude that we must trash the latter two inconvenient concepts--even if critical to the survival of our country.

It is precisely here where Soros and the Left fail utterly to understand the War on Terror. They cannot see beyond their own ideology and lust for power. They have become a danger to this country no less lethal than the terrorists they aid and abet.

 

I think this administration has the right strategic vision and has taken many of the steps needed to get that long-term strategy rolling.

Where I give them the failing grade is in explaining that vision to the American public and the world. Key example: this White House enshrines preemptive war in the latest National Security Strategy and that scares the hell out of a lot of Americans, not to mention our allies. Why? This administration fails to distinguish sufficiently under what conditions that strategy makes reasonable sense.

My point is this: when you are explicit about the world being divided into globalization's Core and Gap, you can distinguish between the different security rule sets at work in each.

Nothing has changed about strategic deterrence or the concept of mutual-assured destruction (or MAD) within the Core, so fears about preemptive wars triggering World War III are misplaced.

When this administration talks about preemption, they're talking strictly about the Gap - not the Core. The strategic stability that defines the Core is not altered one whit by this new strategy, because preemption is all about striking first against actors or states you believe - quite reasonably - are undeterrable in the normal sense.

Thomas P.M. Barnett
The Pentagon's New Map
NB: Dr. Barnett is a lifelong DEMOCRAT

I'm a single-issue voter, as I guess must have become apparent.

I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I'm not a very great admirer of the president in many ways, but I think that my condition is... that this is an administration that wakes up every morning wondering how to make life hard for the forces of Jihad and how to make as hard as possible an unapologetic defense of civilization against this kind of barbarism... and though the Bush administration has been rife with disappointment on this and incompetent, I nonetheless feel that they have some sense of that spirit.

I don't get that... I don't get that feeling from anyone who even sought the Democratic nomination.

I would [therefore] have to vote for the reelection of President Bush.

Christopher Hitchens
Washington Journal, 6.01.04
C-SPAN

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2004

 


29 posted on 04/19/2006 6:46:28 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: devolve

thx :)


30 posted on 04/19/2006 6:52:59 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: johnny7

excellent!

The 'cheeky-clinton' counterpoint is especially 'bottom'-line . ;)

I am reminded of this Joan Didion comment:

"No one who ever passed through an American public high school could have watched William Jefferson Clinton running for office in 1992 and failed to recognize the familiar predatory sexuality of the provincial adolescent."

In 14 years he has not matured. If anything, he's regressed.

At best, he's arrested (would that he were), forever fixed in the phallic.

Not a good stage from which to lead a nation--especially a nation at war.

 

 


31 posted on 04/19/2006 7:20:18 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: yoe
Clinton Reveals on Secret Audio: "I Nixed Bin Laden Extradition Offer"

Wow! What a guy, sounds just like the other Democrat, Harry Reid-- "We killed the Patriot Act!"…… Socialists and stupid to the core.

Keeping America safe is not in the Democratic play book…………………..--yoe

Indeed. Love the analogy.

The Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent2

by Mia T, 4.6.03

 

If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

Mia T, THE ALIENS, June 9, 1999
Alien Abductions, Flying Saucers + Other Weird Phenomena, c.1992-2000

 



l From is sounding the alarm.

"Unless we convince Americans that Democrats are strong on national security," he warns his party, "Democrats will continue to lose elections."

Helloooo? That the Democrats have to be spoon-fed what should be axiomatic post-9/11 is, in and of itself, incontrovertible proof that From's advice is insufficient to solve their problem.

From's failure to fully lay out the nature of the Democrats' problem is not surprising: he is the guy who helped seal his party's fate. It was his Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) that institutionalized the proximate cause of the problem, clintonism, and legitimized its two eponymic provincial operators on the national stage. The "Third Way" and "triangulation" don't come from the same Latin root for no reason.

That "convince" is From's operative word underscores the Democrats' dilemma. Nine-eleven was transformative. It is no longer sufficient merely to convince. One must demonstrate, demonstrate convincingly, if you will… which means both in real time and historically.

When it comes to national security, Americans will no longer take any chances. Turning the turn of phrase back on itself, the era of the Placebo President is over. (Incidentally, the oft-quote out-of-context sentence fragment alluded to here transformed meaningless clinton triangulation into a meaningful if deceptive soundbite.)

Although From is loath to admit it -- the terror in his eyes belies his facile solution -- the Democratic party's problem transcends its anti-war contingent.

With a philosophy that relinquishes our national sovereignty -- and relinquishes it reflexively… and to the UN no less -- the Democratic party is, by definition, the party of national insecurity.

With policy ruled by pathologic self-interest -- witness the "Lieberman Paradigm," Kerry's "regime change" bon mot (gone bad), Edwards' and the clintons' brazen echoes thereof (or, alternatively, Pelosi's less strident wartime non-putdown putdown)… and, of course, the clincher -- eight years of the clintons' infantilism, grotesquerie and utter failure -- the Democratic party is, historically and in real time, the party of national insecurity.

ASIDE: Wartime Bush-bashing sedition of the pre-Howard Dean, pre-Cindy Sheehan variety, with its sotto-voce old-school indirection, refinement and politesse, sounds almost quaint these days.

The Democrats used to be able to wallpaper their national insecurity with dollars and demogoguery. But that was before 9/11.


 

America's Real Two-Front War

 

by Mia T, 4.17.04





merica's
real two-front war: fundamentalist Islam on the right and a fundamentally seditious clintonoid neo-neoliberalism on the left, both anarchic, both messianically, lethally intolerant, both amorally perverse, both killing Americans, both placing America at grave risk, both quite insane.

If we are to prevail, the rules of engagement--on both fronts--must change.

Marquis of Queensberry niceties, multicultural hypersensitivity, unipolar-power guilt, hegemony aversion (which is self-sabotage in the extreme--we must capture what we conquer--oil is the terrorist's lifeblood)... and, most important, the mutual-protection racket in Washington--pre-9/11 anachronisms all--are luxuries we can no longer afford.

Notwithstanding, the underlying premise of our hyperfastidious polity, (that we must remain in the system to save the system) is fallacious at best and tantamount to Lady Liberty lifting herself up by her own bootstraps.

To borrow from the Bard, let's start metaphorically, or better yet, economically and politically, by killing all the seditious solicitors, which include the clintons and their left-wing agitprop-and-money-laundering machine: the Viacom-Simon & Schuster-60-Minutes vertical operation, the horizontal (as in "soporific") Cronkite-ite news readers, the (hardly upright) Ben-Veniste goons and Gorelick sleepers, and, of course, the clueless, cacophonic, disproportionately loud, left-coast Barbra-Streisand contingent.

America must not pull her punches.

To prevail, America must defeat--thoroughly destroy--her enemies. On both fronts.


ne•o-ne•o•lib•er•al•ism n.


neocommunist political movement, a tipsy-topsy, infantile perversion of the Marxist-Leninist model, global in scope, beginning in the post-cold-war, unipolar 1990s, led by the '60s neoliberal baby-boomer "intelligentsia," that seeks power without responsibility, i.e., that seeks to dilute American power by concentrating power in said '60s neoliberals while yielding America's sovereignty to the United Nations, i.e., while surrendering to the terrorists, as it continues the traditional '60s neoliberal feint, namely: (1) concern for social justice, (2) distain for bureaucracy, and (3) the championing of entrepreneurship for the great unwashed.

Mia T, 2.24.04


 

 

 

COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006


 

 

32 posted on 04/19/2006 8:04:06 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

thanx :)


33 posted on 04/19/2006 8:05:58 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: PGalt

thanx. :)


34 posted on 04/19/2006 8:10:22 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: RoadTest

The blunderbuss-ery of bill and hillary clinton would destroy us all.


35 posted on 04/19/2006 8:14:01 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: bmwcyle

Precursor. A foreshadowing....
bump.


36 posted on 04/19/2006 8:15:49 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: memorandum1

IS REUTERS SENDING A MESSAGE ABOUT A COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HILLARY?


37 posted on 04/19/2006 8:31:52 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: E.G.C.

thanx :)


38 posted on 04/19/2006 8:35:59 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Jack Hammer

bump ;)


39 posted on 04/19/2006 8:57:26 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: memorandum1; All
Looking for the bill clinton 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' audio or video
(AND WHAT ARE THOSE NEWS SERVICE PHOTOS OF BILL + HILLARY ABOUT, ANYWAY?)


40 posted on 04/19/2006 10:25:20 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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