FairTax: Abolish IRS, Repeal 16th ammendment...

Redstate ^ | Apr 17th, 2006 | Bioinformaticus Maximus

[Eaglewatcher]

For me the top 3 reasons to support the Boortz, Linder, Peterson FairTax proposal (HR 25, SB 25):

One-fourth of the money we spend on Federal Income taxes is tax compliance (not the money we remit, just compliance) - This level of waste is intolerable. The FairTax would replace 60,000 pages of tax code with a 133 page bill.

Illegal immigrants and criminals would have to pay taxes

It would remove the tax subsidy to foreign companies for aquisition of American companies (Think Daimler-Chrysler)

how would it do all these things? (more below)

[Eaglewatcher]

Great points!

[DustyMoment]

Repeal 16th ammendment...
While we're at it, let's repeal the 17th, too!!!

[TexasTransplant]

Bump!

[Jibaholic]

I used to support a repeal of the 17th but now I'm not so sure. Prior to the 17th Senators tried to shovel pork to the states. You'd get logrolling following that dynamic also.

I think term limits make more sense. One and done.

[Filo]

I'd support it if only they'd lower the 23% number substantially.

I can't see it being that high and being a success.

Start at 15% and lower it over time as the government is chopped up and farmed out. Then I'll support it.

[HOYA97]

Agree on both points! Double Bump!

[Vaquero]

Ann Coulter has mentioned removing the 19th!

[taxcontrol]

Replace the 17th with 1 Senator appointed by Gov, 1 Senator selected by state legislative branch. Senators serve for 6 years.

If Gov or legislators unable to appoint by 2 weeks prior to start of Senate, then the duty falls to the other... i.e. If legislators cant decide by 2 weeks prior, Gov then picks. If Gov unwilling or unable to choose someone, legislators fill the appointment.

Either way, if no one is selected by the start of session, the seat is vacant till the next convening. You snooze, you loose.

[annelizly]

If we want everyone to accept the radical idea of a complete overhaul of our tax system then I think that this would be a good time to put a ton of limits on our governments spending power. I am sick and tired of hearing about the crap that our politicians are spending our money on while schools are closing around me for lack of funding!

[PA Engineer]

Ditto.

[manwiththehands]

"Repeal 16th ammendment... While we're at it, let's repeal the 17th, too!!!"

I'll 2nd and 3rd and 4th that.

[JamesP81]

While we're at it, let's repeal the 17th, too!!!

You got my vote on that one.

[taxcontrol]

You are correct... there needs to be two limits on the tax system. Limits on taxes and limits on spending.

As for spending limits, I have thought that a constitutional amendment on Congress detailing what percentages of each house is required for approval. For example.

Case 1
Increases in the budget less than the previous year's spend. Simple majority.

Case 2
Increases in budget at last years spend up to an increase of by the rate of last years inflation, Majority +3%

Case 3
Increases in budget over last years rate of inflation, Majority +6%

Lack of a balanced budget ... an additional 3%

[newcthem]

No need to do this...........just make paying taxes optional like it already is for all of the ILLEGALS! No problemo.

[takeemout]

I'll 2nd and 3rd and 4th that

you got my vote too, I mean, the libs have seriously limited the 1st and 2nd amendments in many situations

[balrog666]

One-fourth of the money we spend on Federal Income taxes is tax compliance (not the money we remit, just compliance) - This level of waste is intolerable.

It would be intolerable if it were true. It's not.

Illegal immigrants and criminals would have to pay taxes

They pay taxes now every time they purchase something here - don't forget those embedded taxes!

It would remove the tax subsidy to foreign companies for aquisition of American companies (Think Daimler-Chrysler)

So Chrysler goes under instead? That's better?

Of course, the bill the does nothing to repeal the 16th Amendment, so we would probably be stuck with both a federal sales tax and the income tax. Not good.

And, the bill does nothing to rein in government spending at all. Which is worse: out-of-control government spending or excessive and exorbitant taxes to pay for out-of-control government spending?

[ex-snook]

Why is it called the 'Fair Tax'? Well because it does not want to be known as an income tax cut for those who don't have to spend every dollar they make to live.

[TheMightyQuinn]

ping...

[ancient_geezer]

A Taxreform bump for you all.

If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.

John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.

H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

Refer for additional information:

• search: "national sales tax" OR "national retail sales tax" OR "fairtax"