Posted on 04/18/2006 7:39:00 AM PDT by the Real fifi
Speculation is mounting (except, of course, among the “professional” press), as to the identities of six of the eight individuals included in the Libby subpoena to The New York Times (see Clarice Feldman’s piece here). The Times deemed the identities of only two of the parties worthy of release, former CIA director George Tenet and former White House Spokesman Ari Fleischer. The names of the other six remain elusive
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All the typical rats all in one place. Imagine that! </sarc>
Good ole Larry Johnson, the Monday morning quarterback ex-CIA counter-terrorism expert who boldly stated in a NY Times editorial just two-months prior to 9-11 that the threat of terrorism is overstated. This idiot is behind a lot of the criticism against Bush, when it is Larry Johnson's ass that should be on the frying pan for his failures during the Clinton administration and his feelings that Osama and others don't poise a real threat.
Just now came across this, still in the process of reading it, but first look appears to be descriptive that Wison was the go to guy to get a job done.
Who outed Valerie Plame?
Joe Wilson.
There is too much speculation going on with regard to Plamegate. I will not trust anything until it is confirmed.
Oh man, I hope Richard Armitage is neck deep also. The explanation of the "aspen trees truning" in Scooter's letter to Judy Miller is fascinating.....The Aspen Institute....hmmmmmm.....Brent Scowcroft double-crossed Bush.....and Larry Johnson is EVIL.
Why do I picture Larry Johnson and Scott Ritter trolling together for little girls?
'Mr Plame with the candlestick in the dining room'
Aspens are rooted Ping
aspen bump
An interesting aside about Larry; he was State Department, but passes himself off as career CIA. He spent only about four years with them.
Wow, there's a lot to follow up here on possible linkages among Kristof and pals at the "Aspen Strategy Group" - though I still suspect that people like Richard Armitage, Marc Grossman, Larry Johnson, VIPS, et al will turn out to be most significant..... but wait, Armitage apparently IS one of the Aspen Strategy Group people......
Their website seems to be down for maintenance right now, but I found some intriguing info on them at this site:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Aspen_Institute_/_Aspen_Strategy_Group
They seem to be a kind of self-appointed "shadow government" for RINOs and Dems to come together and suck up to one another, purporting to discuss their great foreign policy ideas. Kinda like the Council on Foreign Relation, but here they have their very own 1100 acre retreat center.
They don't have to go all the way to Aspen, though - turns out that they own the infamous
"1100-acre Wye River Conference Center in Maryland"
(where Elian Gonzalez was held for a time, before he was sent back to Castro's hellhole)
Would love to know what discussions among RINO weenies and Dems have been held there in the past few years. The ASG is co-chaired by RINO Brent Scowcroft and ultra-lib Joseph Nye (huge proponent of the "soft power" theme for US foreign policy).
Looking over their list of board members, it is mostly corporate types (presumably for fundraising purposes) but most of the policy types from ex-government and academia range from liberal to ultra-left. Madeline Half-bright is on the list, along with LBJ's Jack Valenti, and the nasty lib Ann Richards of Texas.
Pretty sad to see Scowcroft hooked up with this bunch, but he always was quite the RINO and probably loves rubbing elbows with them.
The interesting thing about this revelation is that Joe Wilson's op-ed in the San Jose Mercury-News contended:
a, Saddam had WMD.
b. And he would use them.
That was Ol' Joe's argument against Gulf War II before it began. But, by April, he had changed his tune -- and his facts.
Good point!! I was thinking that reference was to some later piece by Wilson, but BEFORE the war his argument was emphatically that Saddam would use WMDs on our troops and so if we didn't absolutely have to depose Saddam then we should just continue to 'contain' him......... of course, no mention of Saddams fervent support of terrorism, which as we have been learning extended to training thousands of jihadist in camps in Iraq and an ongoing relationship with Al Qaeda that is NOT insignificant (even if Saddam had not actually sponsored or ordered any attacks through them, he could do so at any time).
Lots of eyebrow raising names on those lists!
Thanks. I'm somewhat familiar with them. Scowcroft hangs around a bunch of "mini-CFR's" like that. I'm not sure which of them he's actually active with vs. which are ones he just sticks his name on to boost his and the group's image on paper--I don't think it's humanly possible for him to actually participate in the number of such groups he joins. Likewise some of the other folks on that list--some of these liberal elitists seem to join as many of these clubs as they can, kind of like it's a habit they picked up in their Ivy League prep schools when they joined as many extracurricular clubs as they good to bolster their resume. So I'm not sure if Aspen figures in a direct way into Plamegate or if the overlap in players is just a byproduct of that phenomenon; but I do think their membership is an indicator of who's who in the upper echeclons of power and who's worth keeping an eye on when trying to piece together the big picture.
I recently had a conversation in which it was claimed that proof of Plame's covert status was the front/cover company, Brewster Jennings, provided by and acknowledged by the CIA. It was further pressed that Plame's 'outing' did irreparable damage, causing the closing of said 'front company', loss of cover for 'associates', and untold damage to national security.
Has anyone ever found any evidence/proof that the CIA provided, and acknowledged having provided, 'Brewster Jennings' as a front company / cover for 'covert' agent Plame? I've searched everywhere and can find no evidence of a connection and no acknowledgement of a connection by the CIA.
And then there's this Aspen invite:
1998ish? Ritter was in high demand. The talk shows applied their makeup. Some of the super-rich invited him to a retreat in Aspen. Henry Kissinger and Colin Powell listened to his take on foreign policy. NBC used him as a military analyst. At the network, he tried to wow his new colleagues. William Arkin, another NBC analyst, remembers joining Ritter in the company cafeteria. ''Unbelievable diarrhea of the mouth,'' he said. ''He's got a serious case of I've-got-a-secret.'' --------- "Scott Ritter's Iraq Complex ," By BARRY BEARAK, Sunday Magazine Section, November 24, 2002 - The New York Times via SFTT.org Soldiers for Truth, http://www.sftt.org/article11252002a.html.
I've noticed that this seems to be a telltale sign of disinformation agents and useful idiots under the influence of such agents. In contrast, a responsible intelligence agent doing their job knows how and when to keep their mouth shut. Compare this observation with Joseph Wilson and it's easy to see into which category he falls.
INHO: Kristoff knew about Plame and the CIA before anyone because he was told by Wilson/Plame. Kristoff even used her as an unnamed source in his article about the Wilson trip.
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