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U.S. Condemns Israel Attack
Fox News ^ | 4/17/06 | AP

Posted on 04/17/2006 8:22:06 AM PDT by stm

WASHINGTON — The White House on Monday strongly condemned an attack in Tel Aviv by a Palestinian homicide bomber who killed himself and seven other people and wounded dozens more.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: emptyrhetoric; talktalktalk; urgedrestraint
Yeah, and......?
1 posted on 04/17/2006 8:22:09 AM PDT by stm
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To: stm

Way to go out on a limb.


2 posted on 04/17/2006 8:27:06 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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Yeah and? What's your point? Share your wisdom and plan of action with us all! (Let me guess, does it involve a mushroom cloud?)


4 posted on 04/17/2006 8:28:08 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop

If not a mushroom cloud, parhaps about 20 or so Tomahawks with proximity fuses.


5 posted on 04/17/2006 8:32:43 AM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads. Taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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To: stm

Great plan! Perhaps save it for when our country is actually attacked.


6 posted on 04/17/2006 8:34:57 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
The best defense is a good offense, plain and simple. And this is not just "armchair soldering" on my part. We go into Iran that will no doubt mean war number three for me.
7 posted on 04/17/2006 8:37:34 AM PDT by stm (Our country and world are at a crossroads. Taking the wrong path is not an option.)
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To: stm

I sure as hell wish Fox would stop using the ridiculous term "homicide bombing." If "suicide bombing" isn't descriptive enough, why not "jihad bombing?"


8 posted on 04/17/2006 8:41:29 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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This is why Israel has to erect walls. The Islamo-Nazi death cult of Hamas has endorsed this homicidal bombing in Tel Aviv. All aid to the P.A. should be cut off...if these sick monsters endorse killing innocents let them be cut off and wither away....let the monkey man Ahmednijihad of Iran support his murderous vermin PA comrades.


9 posted on 04/17/2006 8:41:33 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: Politicalities

I find it much more accurate than "suicide bombing."


10 posted on 04/17/2006 8:43:24 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
Yeah and? What's your point? Share your wisdom and plan of action with us all! (Let me guess, does it involve a mushroom cloud?)

How about just letting Israel know one simple statement.

You do what you feel you must do, and we will not say a word about it.

11 posted on 04/17/2006 8:45:45 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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"It is a despicable act of terror for which there is no excuse or justification," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.

I can't argue with that statement. And President Bush and his administration have time and again publicly supported Israel's right to defend herself.

12 posted on 04/17/2006 8:47:15 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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I find it much more accurate than "suicide bombing."

Well, you're wrong. It's insufficiently descriptive. Anybody who kills another using an explosive commits a homicide bombing. "Suicide bombing" describes a subclass of homicide bombings, in which the bomber deliberately kills himself as part of his plan. Fox's insistence on this silly term led to absurdities like last weekend where the network reported that Iran had trained a cadre of 40,000 "homicide bombers" to attack American interests in the event of military action against them.

I've long held that the honesty and suitability of a term can be judged by imagining how accurately somebody who had never heard it before would guess its meaning on hearing it for the first time. "Affirmative action" fails the test. So does "welfare". "Pro-choice" and "pro-life" both. And so does "homicide bomber." Fox doesn't (and would't) describe people like Timothy McVeigh and Theodore Kaczynski as "homicide bombers", but somebody who had never heard the term before would never guess it.

13 posted on 04/17/2006 8:56:37 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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Suicide implies taking one's own life. If it implied more, then we would not require terms like "murder-suicide."

Homicide implies taking someone else's life. Which is what this is all about. I could argue the evil vermin that indiscrminately slaughter innocents aren't worth enough to count as suicides.

I'm not wrong.

14 posted on 04/17/2006 9:07:04 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)
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To: Coop
Suicide implies taking one's own life.

Yes, which is what a suicide bomber does... among other things.

If it implied more, then we would not require terms like "murder-suicide."

Which is why we don't say "a Palestinian committed suicide in front of a Tel Aviv restaurant today," we say "a Palestinian committed a suicide bombing in front of a Tel Aviv restaurant today." The latter term has a well-understood meaning.

Homicide implies taking someone else's life. Which is what this is all about.

It is, once again, insufficiently descriptive. Why include the word "bombing"? Why not just say "a Palestinian killed a bunch of people?" In fact, why include "killed"? Why not just say "there was a Palestinian in Tel Aviv today?" Because none of these terms is descriptive enough. They're all factually accurate, just as it's accurate to say that a Palestinian committed homicide today. But they're too vague. Saying that there was a "homicide bombing" doesn't convey enough information... after all, a Palestinian who leaves a bomb in a restaurant and detonates it remotely also commits homicide. Describing the act of a "suicide bombing" gives more information about the Palestinian's method. And not describing a Palestinian who leaves a bomb in a restaurant and detonates it remotely as a "homicide bomber" but reserving the term solely for those who commit suicide bombings is disengenuous.

I could argue the evil vermin that indiscrminately slaughter innocents aren't worth enough to count as suicides.

Oh, please. So how would you describe it if a Palestinian terrorist, captured before he could carry out his plot, hangs himself in his prison cell?

They're evil vermin, all right. But when they kill themselves they objectively commit suicide. Describing them as sub-human is fine, but it's loaded with opinion and has no place in a news story. It smacks of propaganda.

I'm repulsed by the rampant liberal bias in the media, but when Fox pulls a stunt like this they give ammunition to those who would claim that they themselves are biased in the other direction.

15 posted on 04/17/2006 9:16:19 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: freedomson

"Way to go out on a limb."

Pretty bad pun. Limb? Ouch!!! ;)


16 posted on 04/17/2006 9:20:01 AM PDT by jdm (Screaming ALREADY POSTED! since 2004)
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18 posted on 04/17/2006 9:33:38 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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