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Big Brother Is Watching You (not just what you're doing now, either...).
1 posted on 04/14/2006 1:21:05 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

Oh, no they don't.

Nope.


2 posted on 04/14/2006 1:21:56 PM PDT by IncPen (Torture should be safe, legal, and rare.)
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To: steve-b
"You haven't done anything but increase surveillance of law-abiding citizens."

Might as well get on with it. It is inevitable that the politicians will give the 1984 solution a try.

The Internet, however is not without it's resources to combat the loss of privacy. PGP will grow like a weed. Encryption in general will become pervasive. It may be hard (but maybe not impossible) to hide where you go but you will be able to hide the transactions. And then, of course, they will try to outlaw encryption. Then we will all be criminals.

3 posted on 04/14/2006 1:30:32 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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Honestly, there's part of me that doesn't mind, the government has a warrant, it has the right to see anything. OTOH, with the precedent set that the government doesn't need a warrant for practically anything, my answer is HELL NO!


4 posted on 04/14/2006 1:32:21 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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If the government doesn't do something to control all of this internet communication we could have a serious outbreak of FREE SPEECH.
6 posted on 04/14/2006 1:33:20 PM PDT by FreePaul
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Why build a system like Carnivore when you can just order the ISPs to do it for you?


7 posted on 04/14/2006 1:35:56 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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A lot of countries spy on their citizens, China and Iran come to mind first. What political party is incharge now? Ahhhh yes, I will remember in November.
9 posted on 04/14/2006 1:38:06 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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The solution to this is simple.

Set up a Virtual Private Network server in the Bahamas, attach it to a huge internet pipe, and sell a subscription service for access to the VPN service. All your internet traffic will be sent via the pipe to the Bahamas, encrypted, and it will appear, for all intents and purposes, that the internet traffic is originating in the Bahamas.

For most private usage purposes, this set up will work fine. High bandwidth requirements might be a problem, but I'm sure that problem can be solved with faster servers, compression, and more bandwidth.

(Okay, so this solution isn't that simple. The simplest solution would be to piggy back off your neighbor's wireless when you're doing something naughty.)


10 posted on 04/14/2006 1:39:00 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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This would be tantamount to being able to come to your home and demand to see all your mail for the past - forever.

Gotta be illegal -

11 posted on 04/14/2006 1:39:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME" Lincoln)
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Nail American citizens but allow ILLEGALS to do as they please.


12 posted on 04/14/2006 1:39:35 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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The Internet protocol for the RADIUS server, the software that logs dial up users on and off the Internet, has always contained provisions for logging every site a user brings up in his browser.

Most ISP's keep such records at least for some period of time.

It is fairly hard to keep anything one does on the net a secret if someone wants to know what you are doing.

13 posted on 04/14/2006 1:39:57 PM PDT by Common Tator
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you are your ip address that big computer in the sky...


16 posted on 04/14/2006 1:44:23 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Polls show Jesus' approval ratings at all time low, after a triumphant reception just a few days ago)
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I'd be all for this if it were a two-way street, meaning government entities were required to do the same thing, and to allow full access to the data to the public.

Like that would ever happen.

17 posted on 04/14/2006 1:44:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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any legal eagles...how come the 5th ammendment no longer seems to work here?


19 posted on 04/14/2006 1:47:20 PM PDT by mo
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This is so easily circumvented that the idea is dumb at face value. At MOST, the ISPs could record where you went. But with the application of IPSec and SSL tunneling, it would be easy enough to connect to a server outside of the US and then tunnel your traffic to other sites.
22 posted on 04/14/2006 1:53:36 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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It's just a hidden tax on ISPs and will be passed along to customers. Who get to pay for this monitoring, overhead, and storage. You and me, that's who.


27 posted on 04/14/2006 2:05:28 PM PDT by glorgau
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libertarian ping wow that jorge agusto sure is reigning in the fed gov huh ?Thank god a majority of the people pulled the republican lever last election


31 posted on 04/14/2006 2:12:41 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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Islamonazi Iran

Communist North Korea

Communist China

Communist Cuba

Islamonazi Syria

Iraq

Russia

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Gee! What a great club to join. I mean, if it is good enough for North Korea and Iran, it must be good enough for America.

38 posted on 04/14/2006 6:30:58 PM PDT by M203M4
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47 posted on 04/14/2006 8:49:03 PM PDT by timestax
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57 posted on 04/16/2006 8:57:50 AM PDT by timestax
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bttt


58 posted on 04/16/2006 9:00:39 AM PDT by timestax
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