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Why so many grads 'fail to launch'
MSN Money ^ | Monday, April 03, 2006 | MP Dunleavey

Posted on 04/14/2006 6:44:37 AM PDT by Panzerlied

Many 20-somethings find themselves moving home to live with Mom and Dad, just like the movie 'Failure to Launch.' Blame it on the inertia -- and some very real challenges.

(Excerpt) Read more at moneycentral.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: careers; graduates; jobs; quarterlifers
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One wonders how true this is of science and engineering majors?
1 posted on 04/14/2006 6:44:37 AM PDT by Panzerlied
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To: Panzerlied

"Despite being bright, articulate and well-educated (she has a bachelor's degree in psychology and a master's in teaching), Bravo couldn't find full-time work after she graduated."

Bravo is not too bright, and a lazy a$$...


2 posted on 04/14/2006 6:46:51 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Panzerlied

Exactly. I graduated just shy of 10 years ago, and even then the University was filled with nonsensical majors and unemployable graduates.

If you think it's bad here, I read a statistic the other day that 80% of Italian men between the ages of 18 and 30 live at home with their mothers. Talk about "mama's boy."


3 posted on 04/14/2006 6:47:21 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Crimaliens Have Got to GO)
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To: Panzerlied

or medical...or even education...


4 posted on 04/14/2006 6:47:29 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Panzerlied

Nothing in the world can take the place of Persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.


--Calvin Coolidge


5 posted on 04/14/2006 6:49:44 AM PDT by oblomov (Join the FR Folding@Home Team (#36120) keyword: folding@home)
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To: dakine
Education major. I once had 3 education major roommates, all women getting their masters. I will never be surprised at the sorry state of secondary education today. Neurosis personified.
6 posted on 04/14/2006 6:50:54 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: Panzerlied

Most university degree programs should come with a warning: DANGER THIS DEGREE WILL MAKE YOU UNEMPLOYABLE DANGER


7 posted on 04/14/2006 6:51:00 AM PDT by thoughtomator (That new ring around Uranus is courtesy of the IRS)
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To: Panzerlied
And these are the folks that will call Active Duty Enlisted unintelligent, stupid, etc...because we don't have a degree...


8 posted on 04/14/2006 6:52:23 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Panzerlied

The article talks about how hard it is for these new grads to get by and get out in the world on $20,000-$30,000 or so. Too bad the article didn't publish the new grads' monthly expenditures. I'm willing to bet most have a high car payment, beer/alcohol expenses, cell phone, etc. Cut those out for a little while and it is amazing how fast one can pay off debt! I myself paid off $7,000 in post-college credit card debt in about 15 months while earning $28,000/year.


9 posted on 04/14/2006 6:52:53 AM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel: MISSING WHITE GIRL NETWORK)
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To: Panzerlied
Keep reading:

"You think, six months ago I had a great on-campus job and social life. Now, I'm living at home, I have two friends and no academic stimulation for the first time in 20 years -- sitting in the basement, surfing the Internet, looking for work," Relyea says. "It's like, wow, I was just studying the cultural history of aborigines and now I'm looking at jobs where the main duties are answering the phone and typing.' "

"How are you supposed to make that shift? It's really something nobody prepares you for."

Boo hoo hoo, cry me a river. Not everyone grows up to be an astronaut.

10 posted on 04/14/2006 6:54:46 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Panzerlied

The Colleges have continuted to jack up tuitions simply becauses they can. They continue to feed at the trough of the Federal Student Loan program. Today's young adults are not only armed with irrelevant degrees they are burdened with hefty loan payments in a world squeezed by globalization and the burden of paying for illegals. And just wait until they get the social security bills to pay for their baby boomer parents who all thought federal subsidized student loans were a wonderful idea.


11 posted on 04/14/2006 6:55:30 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Panzerlied
It was only in the last generation that one was expected to move out of their family home in their 20s. Where I'm from it's not unusual to have three generations living in the same house. My father lived in his father's house with his wife and us three children until he was 40. We didn't move out until my third sister was born. Does that make him a object of ridicule? Would it make me one if I did the same? My family owns a business that the family as a whole operates, and it just makes more sense to keep the family together then to spread us to the winds.
12 posted on 04/14/2006 6:56:34 AM PDT by Namyak (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: darkwing104

"And these are the folks that will call Active Duty Enlisted unintelligent, stupid, etc...because we don't have a degree..."

Who's laughing now? You're out there working, paying taxes and defending our country while they're sitting in a basement. Thanks for your service!


13 posted on 04/14/2006 6:57:33 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Crimaliens Have Got to GO)
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To: Panzerlied
I doubt that engineering and science majors have this prob at all. I see liberal arts degrees all over the place for one reason. The courses are simple, don't require math and leave you plenty of time for partying. The kids coast, graduate... then find out their degree isn't worth much.

Where are the parents or counselors in directing these young adults into careers that would sustain them? MIA, no doubt.

The girl subject in this article should have gone from HS into massage therapy....saving herself and her parents a bundle of $$ and wasted time.

14 posted on 04/14/2006 6:57:57 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: darkwing104

"It's like, wow, I was just studying the cultural history of aborigines and now I'm looking at jobs where the main duties are answering the phone and typing.' "

What kind of job would studying history of aborgines prepare you for?


15 posted on 04/14/2006 6:58:09 AM PDT by quikdrw (Life is tough....it's even tougher if you are stupid.)
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To: Panzerlied
Entitled folks afraid to struggle.

You start out with nothing. Live in a crummy apartment, eat mac & cheese and hot dogs, and work hard. You perform, earn, and gradually do better and then better still. You learn to appreciate what you have and what you've earned - you're happy.

(and you don't turn to credit to falsely 'improve' your conditions, that only lengthens the lean times)
16 posted on 04/14/2006 6:59:02 AM PDT by Sax
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It's really something nobody prepares you for."

This is in fact quite true. Teachers are clueless about the real world. They themselves live in a fake world of summer vacations, winter breaks, spring breaks, vitae and tenure. They have no idea how to prepare children for the real world since they themselves have never lived in that world. So what's their advice...keep going to school. And those that can't do, teach, usually at the taxpayer's expense.

17 posted on 04/14/2006 7:00:28 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Namyak

"Would it make [an object of ridicule] if I did the same?"

No, of course not. This is a different issue. It has to do with lazy kids who live off of their parents' charity. Most do not pay rent. Personally, I think they need an ultimatum from their old man, just like I got (ie: pay rent or scram). Keeping the family together under one roof for business or health reasons is a different ballgame.


18 posted on 04/14/2006 7:00:57 AM PDT by Disturbin (Hey Hey, Ho Ho, The Crimaliens Have Got to GO)
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To: nina0113

19 posted on 04/14/2006 7:01:56 AM PDT by Redleg1963
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To: thoughtomator
I doubt there are very many electronic engineers, biochemistry majors or pharmacy majors stuck living at home with mom and dad.

But the myth that a non-technical degree from a second-tier or lower liberal arts college will do anything for you in the 21st century is one of the biggest scams since Social Security. There are just two options -- go to law school, or go work at Starbucks.

20 posted on 04/14/2006 7:02:00 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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