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To: johnnyb_61820
It was _thought_ that the Darwinism had found a way to create informational systems from nothing, but the fact remains that Chance and necessity do not explain the origin of life.

The theory of evolution has never purported to explain the origin of life. I do not understand the relevance.

When you exclude chance and necessity what is left? Intelligent causation.

This is an appeal to ignorance. You are suggesting that all other possible causes are known and ruled out. You have not demonstrated this to be true.
76 posted on 04/11/2006 1:16:35 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

"The theory of evolution has never purported to explain the origin of life. I do not understand the relevance."

Common Descent rests squarely on a specific view of the origin of life. As Gordon has pointed out, when you remove that assumption, you do not get common ancestry -- sometimes even up to the family level of taxa (which is where creationists put it as well -- though I'm sure for the most part Gordon would put the origin of monophyly a little higher taxonomically than creationists would):

http://crevobits.blogspot.com/2006/02/monophyly-in-biology.html

Also, Darwinism requires the animal to continue to create massive amounts of information by haphazard changes. This has likewise been shown to be in error, as many of the changes in genetics proceed according to planned, structured mechanisms, which direct genetic changes to useful areas.

Again, Darwinism says "no teleology". Evidence says "yes, much teleology".

"This is an appeal to ignorance."

Can you name another category of causation besides necessity, chance, and agency? If not, then this is not an argument from ignorance, it is an argument from knowledge. Otherwise, we would have to uproot the entire scientific enterprise as being an "appeal to ignorance" since every induction we ever do is based on the fact that we know of no other way certain events occur.

Again, if you know of another category of causation, please let me know. As the paper I referenced points out, chance and necessity are insufficient causes.


91 posted on 04/11/2006 1:55:54 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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To: Dimensio
The theory of evolution has never purported to explain the origin of life.

That is a lie. Evolutionists dropped that claim when the scientific evidence clearly established, even to evolutionists, that the whole primordial soup idea was impossible.

92 posted on 04/11/2006 1:56:59 PM PDT by connectthedots
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