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Long-Awaited Medical Study Questions the Power of Prayer
nyt ^ | 3/31/06 | BENEDICT CAREY

Posted on 04/01/2006 5:18:25 AM PST by mathprof

Prayers offered by strangers had no effect on the recovery of people who were undergoing heart surgery, a large and long-awaited study has found.

And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created, the researchers suggested.

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The question has been a contentious one among researchers. Proponents have argued that prayer is perhaps the most deeply human response to disease, and that it may relieve suffering by some mechanism that is not yet understood. Skeptics have contended that studying prayer is a waste of money and that it presupposes supernatural intervention, putting it by definition beyond the reach of science.

At least 10 studies of the effects of prayer have been carried out in the last six years, with mixed results. The new study was intended to overcome flaws in the earlier investigations. The report was scheduled to appear in The American Heart Journal next week, but the journal's publisher released it online yesterday.

In a hurriedly convened news conference, the study's authors, led by Dr. Herbert Benson, a cardiologist and director of the Mind/Body Medical Institute near Boston, said that the findings were not the last word on the effects of so-called intercessory prayer. But the results, they said, raised questions about how and whether patients should be told that prayers were being offered for them.

"One conclusion from this is that the role of awareness of prayer should be studied further," said Dr. Charles Bethea, a cardiologist at Integris Baptist Medical Center in Oklahoma City and a co-author of the study.

Other experts said the study underscored the question of whether prayer was an appropriate subject for scientific study.

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1 posted on 04/01/2006 5:18:26 AM PST by mathprof
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To: mathprof

I liked the Doctor's answer on FOX yesterday. Basically he said it was a stupid study that's unprovable one way or the other but we do know that prayer makes believers feel better so let them do it.


2 posted on 04/01/2006 5:20:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: mathprof

All ready posted and puke alert applies, how many here know prayer works?


3 posted on 04/01/2006 5:21:10 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: mathprof

Trust the NY Slimes to run this story...on Page One,no doubt.If this study had shown the opposite,the Slimes wouldn't have touched it.


4 posted on 04/01/2006 5:28:19 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: mathprof

Prayer does not heal.

GOD heals.


5 posted on 04/01/2006 5:33:49 AM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: mathprof
This is so much sloppy thinking that I really don't know where to start. The title "study questions..." should read "results of study lead some to question. ...." To paraphrase the Bible, "the prayer of a righteous man avails much." Begs the question, what was the spiritual condition of those who prayed? Surely, the participation in such a study would affect the earnestness of the pray-or's faith. Thus introducing an element of doubt, thus negating prayer's power. The power of prayer is the power of faith.
6 posted on 04/01/2006 5:34:23 AM PST by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: boomop1

I know God sometimes says no to my prayers...but I will humbly continue to pray. I believe when people come together in prayer that something good comes even when the answer is no.


7 posted on 04/01/2006 5:35:10 AM PST by MEG33 ( GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: mathprof

Take it from me, prayer does work.

Three years ago I had quintuple bypass surgery.

The first thing I did when I found out I was dying from congestive heart failure was to call my sister so her prayer group could include me in their prayers.

I reached out to all my friends to pray for me.

Well, come the operation results, no one was more surprised than me when I awoke from the surgery. Prayer does make you feel better, prayer does make you believe that you can live, prayer does work.

I'm the living proof!


8 posted on 04/01/2006 5:38:38 AM PST by cpa4you (CPA4YOU)
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To: mission9

DITTO


9 posted on 04/01/2006 5:38:48 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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To: cpa4you

Some years ago, I was diagnosed with colon cancer. There was what the surgeon described as the largest tumor he had ever seen in that type of cancer, and he was the chief abdominal surgeon at a substantial hospital.

I asked my family and friends at my church, who are all trained, empowered and experienced prayer warriors, to pray for me.

After the first night, the only pain I had was when I laughed or coughed. The surgeon said that he had never before removed so much of a rectum without performing a colostomy. He was very proud of his work.

During the radiation and drug therapies over the next nine months, there were very few side affects. Numerous possible side effects disappeared only a few days after they began.

Other, younger people who were diagosed with the same condition I was at about the same time, with the same oncologist and surgeon, complained about a lot of pain, and had very severe side effects from the treatment. One even died.

I realize that different people have different reactions to radical treatments, but how many people are thanked by their doctors for providing an interesting case?

Yes, prayer does work.


10 posted on 04/01/2006 5:52:52 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: cpa4you

In 1995 I was hospitalized for 51 days with pneumonia and various resultant infections.

Through my parents and friends, I was placed on the 'sick lists' of three churches, and a dear priest blessed me with holy water from Lourdes (although I'm not Catholic).

The doctors are still amazed at my recovery. But I am not. Prayer works.


11 posted on 04/01/2006 5:55:53 AM PST by Syberyenta
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To: mathprof

For those who believe no explanation is neceassary. Those who do not beleive none will matter. I only know one thing the more I get down on my knees the more I can stand up to life.(even liberals).


12 posted on 04/01/2006 6:54:33 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: mathprof

For those who believe no explanation is neceassary. Those who do not beleive none will matter. I only know one thing the more I get down on my knees the more I can stand up to life.(even liberals).


13 posted on 04/01/2006 6:54:33 AM PST by betsyross1776
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To: betsyross1776

Well said.


14 posted on 04/01/2006 6:57:23 AM PST by daybreakcoming (If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. A. Lincoln)
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To: mathprof

ScrappleFace
"March 31, 2006
Prayer Study: Humans Fail to Manipulate God by Scott Ott"

http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2229


15 posted on 04/01/2006 7:07:16 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: mission9

On another thread someone said that the "prayers" were given to people on cards and those people recited the "prayers." I doubt the sincerity of the "prayers."


16 posted on 04/01/2006 7:28:21 AM PST by alnick
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To: MEG33
I know God sometimes says no to my prayers...but I will humbly continue to pray. I believe when people come together in prayer that something good comes even when the answer is no.

finally somebody nails it...

17 posted on 04/01/2006 7:29:43 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: betsyross1776

Amen! :)


18 posted on 04/01/2006 7:31:41 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: MEG33

Yes. His will be done, because He knows what is best, even when we don't understand.


19 posted on 04/01/2006 7:34:51 AM PST by LucyJo
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To: fzx12345

a very good point.
the whole basis of the study seems to make a mockery of religion and prayer.
the authors of the study seem to think that prayer is supposed to work in some automatic way, and that God either isn't involved in the process or that His decisions can be determined by prayer.
and the issue of informing people that other people are praying for them is done so differently in this study than it would be done in real life, that the study seems to be meaningless.


20 posted on 04/01/2006 7:42:15 AM PST by drhogan
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