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Mail order brides scam (PARTLY VANITY)
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Posted on 03/31/2006 5:51:19 PM PST by Aliska

Having developed Anti-Scam program we intend to warn you about phenomenon of International dating scam and will do our best try to help you to avoid scamming. We launch our anti-scam campaign and appeal to all people who are in the sphere of Internet dating and international marriage - Foreign men, Russian women and International marriage agencies - as we ALL suffer from scam. MEN scammed by dishonest women stop to believe that it is possible to find a good, loving Russian wife and quit. Less interested men - less opportunities for honest WOMEN to find the right guy for marriage. Serious AGENCIES that invest money into web-site development, offices, equipment lose their customers and business. We want to create a full and complete database of scammers in one place.

(Excerpt) Read more at anti-scam.org ...


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Last night my son came over, hadn't seen him for awhile, and he was telling me about a Russian girl he was writing to. He shared a couple of email letters, no sex talk, and my heart kind of went out to the girl but I thought she looked a little sleazy but attractive and that is the way a lot of girls are now anyway, but see redemption and potential in people.

Since I have a love for Russia, and since I had the family photos she had asked to see, I stayed up too late putting some out on my webspace and sent her the links.

Being interested in Russia, I looked up the town, general geographical area, etc. Somehow some red flags went up, and I decided to google her email address. Nothing. Then I googled her name and it came up on the site with the same city and province. There are tons of names on that site. I will not give the name. There is a lot of this type of activity in the city she claims to be from.

My son makes a lot of money and is on the heels of a long romance and marriage gone sour so is somewhat vulnerable. I called him and told him we'd been had. He seemed to take it well as he didn't invest anything emotionally in it yet. The other guy who reported her had sent her money for passport and visa, asked to be sent photocopies of them, and finally realized something was up when she needed more money to come here. They probably take the money and run and do not come here if they are scammers.

I am not the kind of mother who pries into every detail of his life; he has his social life, and I know little about the people or girls he meets because that is probably the way it should be until and unless things get serious.

I thought some people might find it interesting as I'd read other news stories, some work out ok, but here I am writing her and warning her that my son is fickle, didn't want to see her get hurt, hope she enjoyed the pictures, and the joke is on my son and me evidently.

Just wanted to tell people to be careful about who you meet on the net, not that most of us don't already know. Sometimes they aren't even "real" people, use phony photos. The scam is they need money for a passport and visa to come to America, then extra money for the trip, and other variations.

Heaven knows what thugs might await an unwary guy who makes the trip to meet them in person.

My son who is in his thirties, wanted me to take some photos for the net, and I warned him way back about meeting women on the web. It can be dangerous and costly, monetarily and emotionally, for both men and women.

Maybe the scam info website is a scam. They want donations. How can we know anything for sure any more?

If this isn't Freeper worthy miscellaneous news, I apologize and the mods can dispose of it however they wish.

1 posted on 03/31/2006 5:51:21 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

I think your right about your suspicions, but I will point something out, from a man' point of view

"she looked a little sleazy but attractive "

can be seen as a very positive description.


2 posted on 03/31/2006 5:58:31 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Aliska

Seems funny that they want money to fight scams when there are other free sites out there that post photos of scammers.


3 posted on 03/31/2006 5:59:00 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: ansel12
Yes, I know what you mean.
4 posted on 03/31/2006 6:04:45 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska
In the words of the immortal Mike Brady:

CAVEAT EMPTOR!

5 posted on 03/31/2006 6:05:21 PM PST by Clemenza (I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)
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To: cripplecreek
Seems funny that they want money to fight scams when there are other free sites out there that post photos of scammers.

This site needs money to keep going. That site does, too, lots of names, discussion forums, etc., and besides, that site was the only one her name came up on.

I'm not sending them any money though :-).

6 posted on 03/31/2006 6:06:25 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Here's a message board with plenty of photos and descriptions.

http://www.russian-scam.org/message.htm


7 posted on 03/31/2006 6:07:22 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Clemenza
CAVEAT EMPTOR!

Wise words. It's a shame to think in terms of buying a product when you are looking for a life partner and "true love".

8 posted on 03/31/2006 6:09:24 PM PST by Aliska
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To: cripplecreek

Wow, good looking chicks

I had my credit card out, then I remembered to read the descriptions

I guess the thing is, there is no free lunch, just because it's on the internet doesn't mean you somehow beat the system, and found a mate straight off the pages of Playboy.


9 posted on 03/31/2006 6:15:09 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Aliska
"Maybe the scam info website is a scam. They want donations. How can we know anything for sure any more?"

One hint might be that it does NOT give you a list of sites that will scam you, only pictures, that I guess you are supposed to go through all their pages and see if "your" girl matches.

While you are going through their pages, you are giving them multiple impressions for their paid ads, one on top and two on the bottom of each page.

Surprisingly enough, they are dating ads, imagine that -- targeting men who are worried about Russian woman with ads for women in their local area ( taken from your ISP info )

Sure looks like a scam to me - wouldn't put it past them to sell your email info to spammers either.
10 posted on 03/31/2006 6:18:41 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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Tell him to meet her in Russia. Don't bring her here first. The travel arrangements to get him there are better than trying to get her here, and then back there after she comes and makes a hash of things.

She wants to be here a lot more than he wants to be with her.

11 posted on 03/31/2006 6:21:44 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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Thanks for the link. I'm looking for her name there.

OMG!!! I just got a long email from her, haven't read it yet. Now I will have to decide what to do. I definitely think she is up to something because I was looking for her name again to check at the other link (darn Russian names are impossible) and remember one of their tricks is not to give a profile and she explained why she decided to use a subterfuge (my word, not hers) and not put up a profile.

Evidently lots of them use different names, so they could be anywhere.

I don't want to toy with her. I will pray about it, what else can I do?

Couple of really pretty girls on that site, some not so wholesome looking.

12 posted on 03/31/2006 6:22:43 PM PST by Aliska
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My wife and I helped a Russian woman immigrate here (LEGALLY)last fall. We knew her from e-mail and phone calls for about two years before we were willing to help her and we brought the subject up.

Now that she's here she explains that most Russian women aren't seeking to "escape" Russia or anything. For the most part they're just like American women and want the same things but those things are becoming pretty common in Russia anyway.

The only reason our friend came here was because she wanted to start over after the death of her mother and her boyfriend. She had no one left so we asked her to come here and we've made her part of our extended family.
13 posted on 03/31/2006 6:23:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
Tell him to meet her in Russia. Don't bring her here first. The travel arrangements to get him there are better than trying to get her here, and then back there after she comes and makes a hash of things.

Uh, you don't know my son. One look at Russia and he could be on the next plane home.

I don't want to encourage him in any more of this.

14 posted on 03/31/2006 6:25:48 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

"I don't want to toy with her. I will pray about it, what else can I do?"

Post her email here


15 posted on 03/31/2006 6:27:31 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Aliska

Not her or your address , obviously, just a good portion of the wording


16 posted on 03/31/2006 6:28:46 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: Aliska

Would it kill him to see where his bride wants to spend Christmas? I wouldn't encourage him either, but he might decide he's old enough to decide anyway. Be careful, and good luck.


17 posted on 03/31/2006 6:29:35 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: cripplecreek
See, it can sometimes work out. I'm thinking what if he would bring someone like that here? I'm the only one in the family who knows anything at all about Russia, have met two gentlemanly Russian men in my whole life, they were here on a business trip. I was invited to come meet them but I was much older than they, it wasn't anything like I wanted romance or anything.

You know my first thought when I started kicking it around in my mind after going through years of agony with him and the way he got burned by his beautiful wife.

She might get homesick, and that would make me feel bad for her. That's what I was worried about.

18 posted on 03/31/2006 6:30:10 PM PST by Aliska
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To: RS
Post her email here

No, but for one reason only. I'm not 100% positive. The guy who turned her in could have been sour grapes or something and I don't want her to get deluged with hate mail.

Somehow I get the feeling that men might behind some of this, men who help them compose the letters in English, get a cut, etc.

This is a shame for nice Russian women who just want love like most women and a chance at a better life.

19 posted on 03/31/2006 6:33:44 PM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

That's why I corrected with my second message -NOT email addresses, but potions of the message itself - a search using the exact phrases she uses in her email might turn up other cases where people have gotten burned by letters just like this.


20 posted on 03/31/2006 6:46:31 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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