They are all communists to me

SittinYonder | March 31, 2006 | SittinYonder

[SittinYonder]

Regardless of where you stand on the illegal immigration issue, I think it's vitally important that we remain aware of who is behind these rallies and what their motivation is.

[SittinYonder]

This is a one-time ping to folks who have posted to me on this subject or have been on a thread involving illegal immigration and the upcoming MAY DAY illegal immigrant strike.

It's a pure vanity.

If you want off this one-time ping list, you should have told me before I pinged you. ;-)

[Boston Blackie]

They are all communists to me

....and we are cowards to them.

[eyespysomething]

The country is asleep. WAKE UP WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!

[MizSterious]

Not only cowards, but they also think we're stupid not to see what they're up to. I hope they do a lot more demonstrations, and let the public see just how rotten to the core the illegal immigration movement really is.

[TexasCajun]

See my post "Mow Your Own Lawn - Clean Your Own House" in Chat.

(I'd make a link for ya, but it would take me all afternoon)

[SittinYonder]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1606882/posts?page=6#6

I have seen it and agree ... except I can't change my behavior because I already mow my own lawn and have slave labor (ie kids) to clean the house.

[Plutarch]

Having just read another Wall Street Journal admonishing Republicans for seeking to gain control of illegal immigration, I am trying to figure out whether the invasion is a capitalist or communist plot. How can it be both?

[skip_intro]

I am trying to figure out whether the invasion is a capitalist or communist plot. How can it be both?

Surely you remenber the line about "Give enough rope to the capitalist and he is sure to hang himself".

That's what the WSJ is doing, while the communists just wait.

[Joe 6-pack]

"I am trying to figure out whether the invasion is a capitalist or communist plot. How can it be both?"

Nothing about it is 'capitalist' by strict definition. Even where, 'big business' is behind this, it is where private enterprise has found it feasible and profitable to exploit government intrusion into the economy and it's failure to enforce the same.

[SittinYonder]

How can it be both?

The communist plot isn't so much the invasion, IMO, nor is it coming from the invaders. The communists are co-opting the issue. It's the rallies, the "uniting workers to the struggle" and the overall mayhem they can create.

The communists, leftists, anti-Americans will take over any issue if they can gain more followers to their cause and try to create chaos in this country.

[SittinYonder]

Let me add one other thing. It's not the illegal Mexican picking the peaches who said to himself, "We ought to go on strike for a day" (or however you say that in Spanish).

If you look on these websites, the people putting the sites together and organizing the rallies even acknowledge in some instances that they are not immigrants (read white-bread trust fund leftists).

How does Jose the gardener get tied up with the anarchist movement when he creates his pro-rights for illegals website?

[oyez]

open borders

Once the objective is achieved, borders closed

Rights become priorities of the party. What ever benefits the party is called a right.

[Bigun]

"A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague."

Cicero, About 2500 years ago

[secretagent]

Over the course of the last century we have been able to trace the path of the anti-American movement that traditionally has been associated with communism. Particularly in the last 20 years or so we have seen this movement take on new and specific “causes” to gain more followers.

Some American socialists and anarchists opposed the communists.

I think Sydney Hook, for example, remained a socialist. He spent a big chunk of his life fighting communism in the U.S. and abroad.

[SittinYonder]

Some American socialists and anarchists opposed the communists.

I suspect that those are few and would ask, at least in today's terms, what's the difference? I realize there was a time when the ideologies were unique from each other, but I believe that today they are all driven by essentially the same goals, the destruction of capitalism and the insertion of an authoritarian, centralized, nanny state government.

There may even be a majority in their ranks who don't see that as the goal, but in the end I believe that is what they are fighting for regardless of their intent.

The communists had a plan and we see continue to see it in process today.

[secretagent]

I suspect that those are few and would ask, at least in today's terms, what's the difference?

Freedom of speech.

Anticommunist Sydney Hook believed that, unlike communism, socialism (or at least a welfare state) could only thrive with freedom of speech.

[TAdams8591]

Marking.

[hosepipe]

Correction: communists ARE socialists.. so were/are Nazi's..

[SittinYonder]

Freedom of speech.

Still today? I suspect there are very few socialists who would recognize that distinction.

And as I said, they're all communists to me. Leftists, socialists, nanny staters, greens - whatever the specific cause du jour, any more I think they fall under a single umbrella.