Posted on 03/27/2006 3:11:32 PM PST by Libloather
It's called retirement.
There will be nothing that tax payers can do about it, except whine, pay their taxes, and SHUT UP (or go to jail).
BUMP
No, but they can seize your assets, sell them off to illegal aliens, garnish your wages above $5.15 an hour, and trash your credit report.
Try holding a good job with a lousy FICO score. Try keeping any job with no transportation, housing, or hope of procuring any.
At that point, what need has the government of imprisoning you?
Does this mean that Rush has gotten on board with the flat tax
Judging from his statement, he is solidly for a consumption tax paid with purchase of goods and services rather than the income tax system hitting individuals as it does today.
"That's how we would get the FairTax, the flat tax, a national sales tax, or whatever it is, one that we couldn't avoid paying because it would arrive every time we spent money.
Though it does not appear as though he has not looked in depth at what a "flat tax" vs true sales taxes are. Flat tax tends to get conflated with sales taxes because of the rhetorical device of calling it an economic "equivalent" to consumption taxes. Functionally the flat tax is still a tax taken from elements of income earned, not when spent as true sales tax is.
What if we stopped paying insurance payments? I know that our combined household insurance (medical, dental, car, life insurance) together is a greater chunck of change than our taxes. Who benefits from health insurance? ILLEGALS because they get free medical. What about public schools if we start home schooling or go into private/charter schools - ILLEGALS get American freebee education because we pay for it! Increasing your payroll deductions will help you pay less in payroll taxes....
I strongly disagree. The IRS would obliterate FR members in the biggest wipe-out since Waco. I'm sure Rush was engaging in satire here, not seriously proposing widespread law-breaking. That is the kind of conduct that empowers government to hang a few folks in order to "focus the minds" of the others.
I've thought for years that would be great! I wonder how many would assign anything to fund the IRS? Not to mention congressional salaries . . . :-D
I've been saying this for years.
Shhhhhhh ... we don't want the illegals and their supporters to oppose the FairTax.
Instead, we should co-opt them to the FairTax cause. How ?
Tell them, "We know hard-working immigrants would like to pay taxes like anybody else, but can't get a SS number to work legally and pay taxes. If you could pay your taxes anonymously through a National Retail Sales Tax, then nobody could complain that you didn't pay your taxes !"
I'd like to see them squirm as they try to weasel out of supporting the FairTax then. Of course, no rebate for them because they have no SS#, but them's the breaks.
The IRS would get hugely over-funded by kiss-assess that wanted to be sure the IRS would go after their neighbor and leave them alone.
If what I read about what the government pays for goods is correct, I owe them 7 toilet seats, 8 cases of toilet paper and 3 cans on air freshener. Where should I send my payment?
Paging Midas Mulligan
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You may have something there. A few million people working for free for a month. No withholding, no tax revenue. Hmmm...
But... but... we have an obligation to all of those people on welfare who depend on us!!!
LOL!!!
FR has become a powerful voice (Thanks, Jim)--if we're serious about wanting to make a change in the political landscape, I'd suggest we form a third party (the Free Republic Party), or at the very least a unified faction within the Republican Party, with a specific and detailed platform of what we expect of candidates that we endorse and support.
The only way to get the attention of the RP hierarchy is to threaten their base of votes--there are enough FReepers that we could sway virtually every primary if we were to vote together as a block.
It's time to get our platform together; time to get busy on your campaign speeches, Jim! The nation wants a choice!
"You cannot fight a government that can pay jackbooted thugs with fiat money that the average American will accept as legal tender."
Of course you can.
You all hate France, but France is showing you how to do it right now. 10 million of you flat out refuse to pay the law, refuse to shut up, refuse to move on, and if anybody lays a finger on them, all of their friends and relatives get MORE pissed off and come out too.
The government can't imprison even a million people, let alone 10 million, or 50 million.
What Limbaugh said is true: if a massive portion of the population went on a tax strike, and simply refused to pay their taxes - indeed, filled out their W-4 forms to block withholding (in other words, committed "perjury" according to the form), the government would collapse. The federal government of the United States is nowhere near strong enough to be able to handle massive, directed, pointed defiance of its orders. It could not even handle the dislocation from a hurricane.
Also, who will the police obey? Who will the army obey, if there is an order to use VIOLENCE against peaceful citizens.
Limbaugh is right.
The fastest way to bring the government to heel is mass defiance of the tax system.
But Americans are idol worshippers. Their idol is their law. Americans will never break the law, no matter what.
France is showing how the government can be forced to cave in and change laws in a week, with its tail between its legs to boot.
But you're going to keep mocking the French and doing whatever government tells you to do. Because that really is the American way. Unfortunately.
Rush is right here.
One usually goes to a tax preparer because the lawyer scum, infesting government at all levels, have made the tax code so complex for those who may have multiple sources of income, investments, deductions etc. cannot always determine how much they owe.
To tell a person who felt the need to have their taxes prepared that they should have made sure the return was accurate is typical of the out of control government we are under.
I submit that laws have become so complex on so many fronts that ignorance of the law should be an excuse. We know the ruling class won't allow this as they might be held accountable to legislate with some common sense.
An X% Federal Sales tax on everything except food, housing, medical would simplify things immensely and the poor would pay less than the rich simple based upon their lifestyle.
"Try holding a good job with a lousy FICO score. Try keeping any job with no transportation, housing, or hope of procuring any."
Actually, not.
Because the court system cannot process 40 million repossessions, and the bank or IRS do not simply GET your house and car. They have to go through the courts to get it. Fight them there, right now, where it's just bankruptcies, and it takes a year or two. Toss another 40 million cases, and it will take bank and government decades to be able to take ANYTHING.
Of course the tension would not last that long.
Because, as France demonstrates, if millions of people directly defy the government, the government will cave every single time. It has no power if people won't obey it anymore.
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