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Bush Signs Statements to Bypass Torture Ban, Oversight Rules in Patriot Act
DemocracyNow ^ | Monday, March 27th, 2006 | Charlie Savage

Posted on 03/27/2006 8:56:41 AM PST by IrishMike

The USA Patriot Act was re-authorized this month after a lengthy bi-partisan effort to include new provisions safeguarding Congressional oversight. The new provisions mandated President Bush to brief Congress about how the FBI was using expanded authorities to search and monitor suspects. But shortly after he signed the bill into effect, Bush quietly issued what is known as a signing statement in which he lays out his interpretation of the law. In this document Bush declared he did not consider himself bound by the oversight provisions. Bush wrote he could withhold the information if he decided that disclosing it would harm foreign relations, national security or his duties as President. This was not the first such statement to come from the White House. When Congress passed a bill outlawing torture of detainees last year, President Bush quietly released a signing statement in which he affirmed his right to bypass the law if he felt it jeopardized national security. Democratic Senator Patrick Leahy of Vermont said the President"s latest effort represents "nothing short of a radical effort to manipulate the constitutional separation of powers and evade accountability and responsibility for following the law."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; congress; gwot; patriotact; waronterror; wot
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When President Bush signed a law banning torture he quietly signed a statement saying he could bypass it. Earlier this month, Bush signed the USA Patriot Act but signed a statement that said he did not consider oversight rules binding.
1 posted on 03/27/2006 8:56:44 AM PST by IrishMike
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To: IrishMike

Brace yourselves for another LameStream Media conniption fit.


2 posted on 03/27/2006 8:58:41 AM PST by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: IrishMike
Bypass Torture Ban

ie The Al Qieda Bill of Rights

3 posted on 03/27/2006 9:00:58 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: IrishMike

I find it hard to believe that we don't have the technology to chemically/electronically "debrief" anyone we might need to question without the use of "torture" as is is normally conceived. Efficacy, if not ethics, would seem to argue against most common ideas of physical torture.


4 posted on 03/27/2006 9:02:30 AM PST by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: IrishMike
In this document Bush declared he did not consider himself bound by the oversight provisions.

Why even bother with elected representatives anymore when the President feels he can just ignore them when he feels like it? A lot of us didn't like the Patriot Act because it put too much power in the hands of the government, and were somewhat relieved when at least a token check was put on that power. Now even that check is worthless.

5 posted on 03/27/2006 9:04:41 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: IrishMike
President"s latest effort represents "nothing short of a radical effort to manipulate the constitutional separation of powers and evade accountability and responsibility for following the law."

Actually, it's a reaffirmation of the separation of powers. Congress cannot take away the Executive's Constitutionally granted powers with a simple law. It takes a constitutional amendment. While Congress is busy reminding the President that he is not all powerful, they also need to remember that they are not all powerful either.

6 posted on 03/27/2006 9:05:34 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: IrishMike
That's quite a statement from Leaky Leahy criticizing the President. I can't understand how Leahy still has a security clearance.
7 posted on 03/27/2006 9:07:14 AM PST by jazusamo (Excuse me Helen, I'm answering your first accusation. - President Bush)
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To: IrishMike

Cheney's weather machine is powered by draining the life essence of brown, and black people. Torture has been found to be the best method of obtaining this essence.

So, of course, the President and Vice-President MUST be allowed to torture innocent non-whites. Dontcha know.


8 posted on 03/27/2006 9:07:15 AM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The constitution grants certain powers to the executive branch and other powers to the legislative branch. The legislative branch cannot take away the executive's constitutionally granted powers with a simple law. It requires a constitutional ammendment.

Why even bother with elected representatives anymore when the President feels he can just ignore them when he feels like it?

He can't ignore them when he feels like it, but he can and should ignore them when they overstep their authority.

9 posted on 03/27/2006 9:08:14 AM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Why even bother with elected representatives anymore when the President feels he can just ignore them when he feels like it? "
Because of the acts of traitors in both the house and senate that feel our enemies need to know everything we do to try and win this war..........are you a troll?
10 posted on 03/27/2006 9:13:35 AM PST by joe fonebone (Vote YES! on Lake Iran......)
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To: Puppage; All

The Mc Cain terrorist 'Bill of Rights'


11 posted on 03/27/2006 9:14:36 AM PST by IrishMike (Dry Powder is a plus)
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To: AustinBill
I find it hard to believe that we don't have the technology to chemically/electronically "debrief" anyone we might need to question without the use of "torture" as is is normally conceived. Efficacy, if not ethics, would seem to argue against most common ideas of physical torture.

There is no magic elixir. Different people have varying levels of tolerance against any of the "truth serums", which generally tend to lessen inhibitions and disorient them to make them more talkative. Just as some folks will tell all with only one or two beers in them, others can control what they divulge up to the point of passing out from a case of beer.

If you really want them to talk, you have to make the position of staying mum untenable...

12 posted on 03/27/2006 9:16:55 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: antiRepublicrat
Why even bother with elected representatives anymore when the President feels he can just ignore them when he feels like it? A lot of us didn't like the Patriot Act because it put too much power in the hands of the government, and were somewhat relieved when at least a token check was put on that power. Now even that check is worthless.

If you don't understand why secrecy and freedom to do what is necessary are sometimes indespensible for National Security, do me a favor and don't vote.

13 posted on 03/27/2006 9:19:35 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: untrained skeptic
The legislative branch cannot take away the executive's constitutionally granted powers with a simple law.

Any power he has to violate this law is an interpretation. Countering that is "he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." Saying that he'll ignore provisions of the law is not executing a law faithfully.

I would understand your point if Congress was trying to remove his explicit power to grant pardons, but that's not the case.

He can't ignore them when he feels like it, but he can and should ignore them when they overstep their authority.

Then he should take it to the Supreme Court to try to get the law overturned. Otherwise, he's bound by the Constitution to faithfully execute the revisions to the Patriot Act. Anything else is a violation of his oath of office and IMHO clear grounds for impeachment.

15 posted on 03/27/2006 9:21:22 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: IrishMike
John McCain and the ACLU are angry Al Qaeda doesn't get Miranda warnings. Oh well.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

16 posted on 03/27/2006 9:21:43 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: antiRepublicrat
1) the President is the only nationally elected political figure. If you don't like him, vote al-Qaeda and the Dems. You're free to do that.

2) The whole reason Bush didn't expend more political capital on the legislative debate was that he knew he was going to do this.

17 posted on 03/27/2006 9:28:08 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: goldstategop

How about torturing people by forcing them to watch old Love Boat episodes, or something like that? Maybe that would be TOO cruel though....


18 posted on 03/27/2006 9:29:30 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: IrishMike

You know, when President Clinton pulled this kind of usurpation of power crap Free Republic was quick to condemn him. When President Bush pulls the same kind of extra-Constitutional stunts, I'm sure that we'll be hearing crickets here. I hope that Congress, in a bipartisan manner, smacks him down on this misbehavior.


19 posted on 03/27/2006 9:31:17 AM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: joe fonebone
Because of the acts of traitors in both the house and senate that feel our enemies need to know everything we do to try and win this war

The law didn't say to publicly release the information. It remains classified if necessary. Bush simply doesn't want any accountability for his actions. I don't trust anyone that much, especially not a politician, and definitely not a possible Democrat successor.

are you a troll?

Are you a BushBot wishing to live in a totaliarian state?

20 posted on 03/27/2006 9:34:31 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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