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To: Jim Robinson

Stupid law.

1. So you make being illegal a felony. So what. If you deport an II, he'll come back. If you jail an II, you're using my money to pay for his jail time and probably letting out a rapist, murderer or other truly undesirable person back into society early.

2. Better solution is guest worker bills.

3. American's have been concerned about immigration for 200 years - so far, the more people we've let in the better we've been off. Our biggest enemy has almost 900 million more people than we do. People are power.


18 posted on 03/27/2006 4:57:52 AM PST by tdewey10 (It's time for the party to return to the principles of President Reagan.)
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To: tdewey10

You are too wrong to comment more on - perhaps from DU are you?


21 posted on 03/27/2006 5:13:25 AM PST by ConsentofGoverned (if a sucker is born every minute, what are the voters?)
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To: tdewey10

33% of the U.S. prison population is made up of illegals.

In Los Angeles, 95 percent of outstanding
homicide warrants are for illegal aliens, as are 66 percent of fugitive felony warrants. The notorious 18 Street Gang has 20,000 members, of whom 60 to 80 percent are illegal aliens, according to the California Department of Justice and the Los Angeles Police Department, respectively. The Lil’ Cycos Gang, notorious for murder, racketeering, and drugs in Los Angeles’s MacArthur Park, was thought to be 60 percent illegals in 2002, and the percentage is higher now.


90 percent of the meth (methamphetamine) manufactured in this country is manufactured by Mexican national (Mexican non-U.S citizen) drug organizations,"- Ron Gravitt, California Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement's clandestine lab unit chief, Oct. 2000, Sacramento Bee Special Report. "Methamphetamine cases today account for 80% of the nation's police departments' drug investigations

Over the past five years, an average of more than 72,000 aliens have been arrested annually on drug charges alone.

Taxpayers pay $750 million annually to house the 18,000 illegal aliens in California prisons alone.


23 posted on 03/27/2006 5:15:01 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: tdewey10

Cost of educating illegals each year: 28.6 billion dollars

Monetary burden on U.S. taxpayers: More than 10.4 BILLION dollars annually

Cost of Illegals on Medicaid: $2.5 billion.

Cost of Illegals for health insurance: $2.2 billion.

Cost of Illegals for food assistance: $1.9 billion.

Cost of Illegals on our legal systems: $1.6 billion.

Cost of Illegals on federal aid to schools: $1.4 billion.

Displaced American workers: Approximately 1.8 million annually.


24 posted on 03/27/2006 5:18:54 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: tdewey10
I appoint you Ambassador to Nuevo Laredo...
28 posted on 03/27/2006 5:28:51 AM PST by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: tdewey10

Many illegals are criminals (aside from the illegality of their mode of entry).

You like this?


35 posted on 03/27/2006 6:01:34 AM PST by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: tdewey10

"We have an aging white America ... They are dying ...We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."

Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas,
Arlington and founder of the La Raza Unida political party


58 posted on 03/27/2006 9:27:04 AM PST by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: tdewey10

Please call them INVADERS and don't compare them to people who are legal aliens!


President Bush has been great on most things except for our border.
He has been great on the war on terrorists.
But on the border he is a gross failure.
He acted fast and correct on the 3,000+ people murdered at the world trade center.
He ignores the many rapes, murders and robberies which might be larger than the murders and money loss at the world trade center.
More Americans are abducted on the border of Mexico than in Iraq!

Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.


95 posted on 03/27/2006 10:23:00 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO")
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To: tdewey10

Wrong. The best solution is hardly a guest worker program. The best solution also requires no additional expense in border security at all. The best solution is to remove the very things which make illegals desire to come here to begin with. The vast majority of them who are coming here are not crossing the border with the purpose of smuggling and such.. most are crossing the border because of the social benefits (welfare, medical, etc) and for jobs. If we can eliminate THOSE folks from wishing to come here, then the existing border patrol would probably be very adequate for dealing with the small number who would be left, and who are the REALLY bad boys.

First Step: The most obvious... eliminate ALL social benefits for illegal aliens. No education. No medical, or if we allow emergency medical, we require E.R.'s to turn in those who cannot document legal residence to ICE for deportation. NO WELFARE OF ANY SORT.

Second step: $10,000 per day, per illegal alien employed. Fine to be imposed on the employer of any illegal alien. Responsibility for verification that the person is legal for employment is 100% upon the employer. (10 illegals employed for 10 days = 1 million dollar fine) No Excuses accepted.

Third step. Make it well known, even among illegal aliens, that half of all fines imposed will be split with the first individual (even if he is an illegal) who makes a report that results in conviction of the employer. This will result in illegals who know that, for every day they are employed, they can quit or get fired and then report the boss, and get $5000 for each day he was employed (or even much more if the employer is employing other illegals as well). Naturally they will not want to wait TOO long, since they want to be the first to turn the employer in, before some other illegal does so. This will result in massive numbers of illegal aliens turning in their own employers. This would require very little manpower on the part of the Fed. Govt to go out and catch companies that employ illegals, as it would turn illegals, themselves, into defacto "agents". As a result, employers will lose all incentive to hire them to begin with and will have GREAT incentive to insure they do not hire one.

No Jobs, No social benefits, No illegals.


104 posted on 03/28/2006 1:13:39 PM PST by AnnoyedOne
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