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Were they not saying: “Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance”? (the view of an ex-muslim)
Faithfreedom.org ^ | 3/25/2006 | Syed Kamran Mirza

Posted on 03/25/2006 5:18:31 AM PST by Dark Skies

Abdur Rahman, 41 an Afghan man is facing possible death penalty from Allah’s draconian law called Islamic Shariaat. What was his crime? He voluntarily converted from Islam to Christianity; that was his only crime. Islam does not allow people to choose their religion of choice. Because, Islamic Allah (God) accept only Islam as the religion of all mankind. Islam never recognizes or respects any other religions, period. Islam never tolerates any other religion but Islam. Not only that, Islam actually controls mind, body and life of every Muslim by 100%. Muslims are like robot or zombie and having being a perfect Muslim (Muslim by the book) they lose the quality of normal human.

According to Allah’s decree (4:89) in Holy Quran—this poor Afghan should be killed Islamically by beheading, or by stoning by hundreds of enthusiastic super-zealous pious Muslims—by singing the Islamic holy slogans: “Allah-hu-Akabar”—Allah the Great. Prophet of Islam himself killed apostates and Islam never allows any human to accept religion of their own choice. Islam only allow one religion and that is called Islam. Quranic verses clearly dictated believers of Islam to kill the apostates. Here is what Holy Quran says about the apostates:

Quran-4:89—(Yusuf Ali): “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks;-”

So please don’t blame Afghanic Islam; there is no such thing called “Afghanic Islam” or “Afghan Islamic rule”, as some western reporters are stating erroneously. There is only one Islam and one Islamic rule that is universal for all Islamic countries wherever this barbaric Sharia laws are implemented.

(Poor Abdul Rahman, arrested by Afghan police)

Pure Islam of 7th century practiced by Prophet Muhammad does not recognize any sort of human rights. In fact, Islam does not have any kind of human rights at all. Islam only recognizes Allah’s rights and Prophet’s rights; that’s it. Quran does not talk about any kind of human rights; Quran only talks about Allah’s rights or rights of pious Muslims.

Millions of conversion from one religion to other is a common phenomenon throughout the world. If thousands of Christians or Hindus do convert to Islam, it’s o.k. to every Muslim. They will hail them with heartiest welcome and will loudly cheer—“Allah the Great!!!” But problem starts when any Muslim does convert to other religion. He must be killed. This single case is a glaring example of Islam’s dire intolerance towards other religion. Afghan pious Muslims are furious to poor Abdur Rahman because he left Islam for Christianity. Afghan clerics demanded: “Kill Christian convert, Karzai will be 'pulled into pieces' if Abdul Rahman spared. We will not allow God to be humiliated. This man must die”. This is really peaceful and tolerant religion, indeed!

But so what? Go ask any western educated Muslims (living in the infidel lands with western comfort) about Islamic tolerance. Undoubtedly the majority of them will proudly say that Islam is a religion of peace and ample tolerance. Go ask any Islamic mullah from CAIR, ICNA or ISNA about peaceful tolerant Islam. They all will say the same slogan which they have memorized so efficiently to fool the western gullible (idiots).

All these years, we have been telling western readers with tons of authentic evidences (from Quran and Ahadiths) that Islam is a dangerous, inhuman, terribly intolerant and violent religion. But at the same time, all those hypocritical Islamists were busy refuting our claim by saying: “Islam bashers are not telling the truth about Islam, they are citing bad translation, distortions of peaceful Quranic verses etc. etc.” And western gullible (idiots) seems to believe those cunning Islamists more than they believe us (a few apostates), who are desperately telling the truth about Islam by risking their own life.

My questions are: where are all those western living Islamic pundits? How they can explain this Islamic barbarism destined to happen with this innocent Afghan convert?

Why are they completely silent now? Where are those big mouths of CAIR (Ibrahim Hooper. Nihad Awad gong) and why they are not talking now? Were they not telling American gullible public that Islam means peace and tolerance? After 9/11 these Islamic pundits of CAIR/ICNA/ISNA were busy fooling American publics days and nights by their mouthful of lies about Islam.

Why western media are so silent (relatively) about this heinous act of Islam in Afghanistan now? So far, reaction to this incredible human rights violation by Islamic Shariaat (real Islam) from the west has been low to moderate, and I am not satisfied by their low-key response. American Medias are broadcasting this horrific news like any other ordinary news; just a news! No appropriate reactions or inquisitiveness or angry questions coming out of any western reporters. As if nothing happened. Just a month ago western media were hysteric to the ‘famous monkey dancing’ of Peaceful Muslims worldwide on the Danish Cartoon issue. There should have been created a hue and cry in the west by this kind of uncivilized act of Islam. Of course, at last, President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice have uttered some strong words which may save the life of this poor Afghan. But reaction could be more strong and vigorous from the western leaders and publics. Why President Bush and Condoleezza Rice do not ask Afghans their angry questions about Islamic intolerance?

Why CNN, FOX NEWS, MNBC etc. do not call all those Islamic pundits from CAIR/ICNA/ISNA and grill them up very hard with genuine questions? Let them explain this beautiful super-tolerant scenario of Afghanistan in front of the American public. Where are those soft-spoken western apologists like Karen Armstrong, John Esposito and James Zogby’s big mouth? American media should grill them all. American media should force Ibrahim Hooper and Nihad Awad to admit that, Islam was never a tolerant religion in the past, and Islam will never be a peaceful religion again. Islam needs to be discarded for good. Islam is barbaric and medieval Arab Bedouin’s life style in the garb of religion.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdulrahman; afghanistan; apostasy; islam; muslim
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1 posted on 03/25/2006 5:18:40 AM PST by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Well said.
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2 posted on 03/25/2006 11:00:54 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Dark Skies
That's the problem ... they have a democracy OF SORTS however the UNDERYLING LAW is Allah’s draconian law called Islamic Shariaat law. So it's NICE to view yourself as a democracy but the LAW is ISLAMIC LAW. What have you GAINED in the "democracy".

Even "MODERATES" are telling people to BEHEAD HIM. So, Bush, tell me about how appalled these "moderates" are. Tell me they want "peace". Tell me they are "tolerant". Tell me they put secular laws based on CHRISTIAN PRINIPLCES ABOVE Shariaat law. Convince me.

Never mined that CHRISTIANS, our military gave their lives and FREED THEM FROM THEIR OWN Islamic MONSTERS.
3 posted on 03/25/2006 11:01:45 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: nmh; expatpat

We have the courageous actions of Abdul Rahman to thank for exposing the B/S of the so-called Afghan democracy. I wonder how a muslim/Christian conversion is going to go over in Iraq.


4 posted on 03/25/2006 11:08:10 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: nmh

Extremely well said. For an encore, listen and read the following from the courageous Wafa Sultan.

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null


5 posted on 03/25/2006 11:11:34 AM PST by az_jdhayworth_fan (You can't make the poor rich by making the rich poor --Coors)
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To: nmh

I do not believe Islam and democracy are compatible.


6 posted on 03/25/2006 11:13:37 AM PST by BW2221
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To: Dark Skies
"Islam needs to be discarded for good."

Yep!

7 posted on 03/25/2006 11:20:35 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Dark Skies

It is a painful discovery indeed if you first realize your religion is actually a cult when you throw away your membership card and then are informed that your head stays with the card.


8 posted on 03/25/2006 11:24:07 AM PST by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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To: az_jdhayworth_fan

Great link.


9 posted on 03/25/2006 11:26:15 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: Dark Skies

This needs to be bumped.


10 posted on 03/25/2006 11:34:11 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I'm not a curmudgeon!!!! I've just been in a bad mood since '73)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

bump


11 posted on 03/25/2006 11:40:23 AM PST by az_jdhayworth_fan (You can't make the poor rich by making the rich poor --Coors)
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To: BW2221
"I do not believe Islam and democracy are compatible."

I believe it was the right thing to do ... invading Afghanistan and Iraq however you can NOT skip over the underlying beliefs that allowed these monsters in power.
12 posted on 03/25/2006 11:44:45 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Dark Skies

Islam does not allow people to choose their religion of choice. Because, Islamic Allah (God) accept only Islam as the religion of all mankind. Islam never recognizes or respects any other religions, period. Islam never tolerates any other religion but Islam.
What a peaceful religion. Ha!


13 posted on 03/25/2006 11:46:56 AM PST by David643
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To: az_jdhayworth_fan

Yeah ... I don't know what the answer to that issue is.

Islam is a BRUTAL, INHUMAN "religion".


14 posted on 03/25/2006 11:47:47 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Dark Skies
It breaks one's heart to see such UTTER HYPOCRISY.

Men and women gave their lives, many of them CHRISTIANS, to free them from their OWN EVIL LEADERS who are MUSLIMS. Then when a person converts to CHRISTIANITY, a REAL PLUS in that hideous society, they want his head.

You've got to get to their CORE BELIEFS. SOMEHOW expose them for what they are - EVIL and convert them. Ann was RIGHT, convert them to Christianity through persuasion - never force. It's so sad.
15 posted on 03/25/2006 11:50:43 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) !)
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To: Dark Skies

Good article. Islam does not recognize human rights. It teaches that apostates are to be killed, that "infidels" are to be forcibly converted or forced to live under dhimmitude, that women may be beaten, raped, or killed because they are inferior to men, and that its law, Sharia, is the only law.

I'm not sure how we are supposed to live with these people.

May God deliver this unfortunate Christian from the hands of his captors.


16 posted on 03/25/2006 12:00:21 PM PST by steadfastconservative
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To: Dark Skies

Time to pick a side in this fight.


17 posted on 03/25/2006 12:00:49 PM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: Dark Skies

I think the key here is that they (imams et. al.)know that given a choice, there would be a massive mutiny on Islam, so they must force it on their people. Thus the "convert back or die!" posture.

Also, just a comment on Wafa Sultan's admonitions of Islam that I posted as an echo your sentiments, I think one of the most resounding and stirring points is the lack of human capital as seen in Islam's lack of "contributions to mankind". In short, you can't earn respect by cutting people's heads off. You earn it with work and knowledge and contributions to humankind. The world desparately needs you courageous people to speak out against Islam now.


18 posted on 03/25/2006 12:02:00 PM PST by az_jdhayworth_fan (You can't make the poor rich by making the rich poor --Coors)
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To: Dark Skies
THE Answer to anyone who says "Killing apostates is a 'distortion' or 'just one interpretation' of Islam":

KORAN [4.89] They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.


Permission for Muslims to lie to infidels for Islam (deny or mislead about faith - read carefully):

KORAN [16.106] He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.

19 posted on 03/25/2006 12:11:58 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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To: Dark Skies

Let's all convert to Islam so we can abandon it and become apostates.


20 posted on 03/25/2006 12:17:24 PM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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