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I wonder who is organizing these rallies. Is the Hildabeast's enablers behind these media stunts?
1 posted on 03/24/2006 12:19:42 PM PST by george wythe
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The country does not like illegal immigration. Seeing thousands waving mexican flags and demanding 'rights' does not help their case. It just pisses off folk.


2 posted on 03/24/2006 12:23:04 PM PST by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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The illegal aliens and the criminals who hire them and the criminals who harbor them are getting out in the street making their desires known. It is way past time those of us who support the rule of law and secure borders did the same.

Join Veterans for Secure Borders, The Minuteman Project, Latino Americans for Immigration Reform, Mothers Against Illegal Aliens, and other groups protesting amnesty for these criminals, and demanding the government protect our borders.

http://www.areckoning.com/

FReepers should be at this rally in strength.


3 posted on 03/24/2006 12:23:33 PM PST by SUSSA
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I hope they scream, burn American flags and wave Mexican and La Raza flags. The uglier the better.
4 posted on 03/24/2006 12:23:38 PM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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"God created all of us. He's not a God of the United States, he's a God of the world."

Spoken like a true socialist-commie-fascist.

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY, DAMMIT!


5 posted on 03/24/2006 12:24:11 PM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage)
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"God created all of us. He's not a God of the United States, he's a God of the world."

So I assume this woman would have no problem with me moving myself into her home to live rent free. After all, God is not just the God of the US - he's also the God of me and her house!

7 posted on 03/24/2006 12:25:49 PM PST by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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Call your Senator, Congress person, Write the President....that is what we are supporting now...people who do "NOTHING" and that is "NOT" the American way.


8 posted on 03/24/2006 12:26:34 PM PST by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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The American dream does not involve sneaking across the borders and becoming an illegal alien living in a country who didn't give you permission to come. It involves following the rules.

Round em' up and ship em' out and if you accidentally round up a few illegal lovers with them so be it.


10 posted on 03/24/2006 12:34:23 PM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: george wythe

Arbusto Akbar


11 posted on 03/24/2006 12:43:21 PM PST by joesnuffy
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To: george wythe; Jim Verdolini; SUSSA; butternut_squash_bisque; sangoo; Paige; All
I wonder who is organizing these rallies. Is the Hildabeast's enablers behind these media stunts?

Actually it sounds more like some republicans, like Grover Norquist, Bush's point man on immigration, who has always been great at "stunts" when it comes to illegal immigration. Read on.

Part III of Series) Illegal-immigration bill weakened by unlikely alliance (HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF!)

By Marcus Stern

COPLEY NEWS SERVICE

04-Nov-1997 WASHINGTON - After years of bitter losses, Sen. Alan K. Simpson thought the political tides finally favored his quest to create a way to keep illegal immigrants from getting jobs.

The issue had emerged as a hot-button during the 1996 campaign. This time, he would surely defeat the powerful and savvy pro-immigration lobby.

"As I look out on this sea of faces, there are some who have been cutting my bicycle tire for 17 years," the now-retired Wyoming Republican said last year as the Judiciary Committee prepared to debate his proposals. "They're sitting back there, hollow-eyed, twitching like dogs eating peach seeds and wondering if they can do it again. ... Well, I think that game is over."

Simpson was wrong.

Once again, he had sorely underestimated the tenacity and cleverness of special-interest groups determined to preserve the flow of undocumented workers into the United States.

Yes, Congress eventually passed a new immigration law. But it was so weak it would do little to hasten the creation of a system to help employers quickly and reliably verify that the people working for them are in fact eligible to hold jobs in the United States. Such a system is a key to curbing illegal immigration, according to many experts.

The "twitching dogs" who dragged down Simpson's initiative last year are Capitol heavyweights whose coalition on immigration falls into the unlikely bedfellows category. Among them: the National Federation of Independent Business, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Rifle Association, the Catholic church, the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Bar Association and even some labor unions.

As these special interests swarmed all over Capitol Hill, however, no lobbyist represented millions of legal immigrants and other poor people, who, because of welfare reform, soon might need the low-skill jobs now being held by the rising number of undocumented workers.

"There's no National Association of Working Poor," said Robert Reich, who served as labor secretary during President Clinton's first term. "There's no special-interest lobbying group working on behalf of very poor people trying desperately to find and keep jobs.

"If a politician has to decide between the interests of small businesses seeking inexpensive help and the interests of poor Americans either seeking a job or afraid of losing a job or declining earnings, the chances are very good that the small business has far more clout."

Special-interest clout

The clout displayed last year when the immigration lobby defeated Simpson's plan is a textbook demonstration of how special interests have long dominated immigration policy in Washington.

Simpson wasn't asking for anything remotely like a national ID card or national database of workers. He merely wanted the Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 to authorize pilot projects to test methods for verifying employment eligibility.

One pilot would have required participating employers to check their new employees' Social Security numbers. Because it would apply to all of their new workers, discrimination against "foreign-looking" job applicants would have been minimized.

But the anti-verification coalition painted the proposal as a sinister plot. It portrayed it as a retina-scan ID card, police-state power, the second coming of the Holocaust and even the fulfillment of a dark prophecy in the Bible's Book of Revelation that people would be stamped with the "mark of the beast."

At one meeting of the Judiciary Committee, an irritated and clearly frustrated Simpson indignantly waved a make-believe tattoo that looked like a grocery store bar code. He called it a ploy to kill his verification proposal. He was right.

Grover Norquist, a social conservative and anti-tax Republican lobbyist, reveled unapologetically in the tactics he used to undermine the verification initiative and to mock Simpson personally.

The peel-off bar-code tattoos were supposed to remind people of the way Nazis tattooed Jews during World War II. "It was great," recalled Norquist, who is close to House Speaker Newt Gingrich. "We had our guys walking around with tattoos on their arms. It drove Simpson nuts because the implication was he's a Nazi."

The truth, however, is that both the House and the Senate bills specifically barred the implementation of any kind of national ID card. Politicians view such a card as a political kiss of death; nobody expects Congress to seriously consider one.

Toward the end of the debate, Simpson decried the pranks and slurs.

"We have dealt with tattoos and Adolf Hitler," he said. "It is the most offensive thing that I have ever heard. It's disgusting and I'm sick of it."

'Mark of the beast' Although voters tend to see Republicans as tougher than Democrats on illegal immigration, the weakening of the verification provisions was largely the handiwork of conservative Republicans and their behind-the-scenes strategists like Norquist.

Their success underscores how tough it is for Congress to do the one thing experts have said for decades is central to curbing illegal immigration: Establish a reliable, non-discriminatory employment verification system.

Norquist has strong ties to the business community. Mainstream firms like Microsoft paid him to lobby against other provisions of the bill, such as tighter restrictions on the immigration of computer programmers.

But his forte is mobilizing support among social or moral conservatives, including gun owners, the religious right, home-schooling adherents and others he described as "anti-welfare and anti-police state."

"A government powerful enough to find an illegal immigrant is also powerful enough to find your bank accounts," he said.

Conveniently, he ignores the fact that the government long has been able to find bank accounts with ease while it still can't reliably identify undocumented workers.

"Nobody really minds people sneaking across the border and working at 7-Eleven," he added.

At one point during the debate, congressional offices received calls from fundamentalist ministers around the country asking about rumors that the verification provision would fulfill a prophecy in the Book of Revelation. Was it true, they asked congressional staffers, that people would be stamped with the "mark of the beast" under the new law?

"Six-six-six," Norquist explained matter-of-factly during an interview. "That's always been one of the arguments against the ID card. There's something in Revelations about numbering people. The 'beast' could be a big computer."

The National Rifle Association was told the bill would lead to a federal computer registry that the government could use to hunt down its members and seize their guns. "Gun owners quite correctly understand that it would take Bill Clinton all of two weeks to add the question, 'Got any guns? Could we have a list of them? Where do you keep them?' " said Norquist.

Verification opponents also circulated mock national identification cards bearing Simpson's likeness. On the back of the cards was a retina scan diagram suggesting that the legislation called for everyone to carry such a card.

"That was a good one," Norquist chuckled.

Anti-verification coalition Conservatives didn't fight verification alone last year. They were part of a coalition of strange bedfellows involved in civil rights, ethnic and religious advocacy, anti-government politics and free-market ideology. They were also bolstered by powerful business groups.

The coalition was a juggernaut that fought virtually any verification initiative. Because Republicans control Congress, conservative lobbyists were especially influential. The fact that some limited, voluntary verification projects stayed in the bill at all outraged some conservatives.

http://www.cis.org/articles/Katz/katz1998.html

13 posted on 03/24/2006 12:51:31 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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Thousands march in Phoenix to call for humane immigration reform

"It's racist," Lozano said. "You're not going to find terrorists outside a Home Depot looking for a job."

Other signs read "USA -- Made by Immigrants" and "We are hard workers, we are equal."

Kyl, a Republican, is sponsoring a bill along with by Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, that would give illegal immigrants up to five years to leave the country. Those immigrants could apply from their home country to return, either as temporary workers or for permanent residency


14 posted on 03/24/2006 12:53:17 PM PST by george wythe
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They are waiving the mexican flag and bold in their shouts to kill "whitey".

Thank you Bush and Bushbots for the continue segregation of our country. They are illegal and demanding the same rights as our sons and daughters who a laying down their lives to fight and die in Iraq.

Bush cares less about you and I - he has sold us down the river to the lowest bidder.


15 posted on 03/24/2006 12:53:53 PM PST by sasafras ("Licentiousness destroyes order, and when chaos ensues, the yearning for order will destroy freedom.)
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I hope there were immigration agents on hand for this rally!


19 posted on 03/24/2006 12:59:56 PM PST by msnimje (SAMMY for SANDY --- THAT IS WHAT I CALL A GOOD TRADE!!!)
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"They're here for the American Dream," said Malissa Greer, 29, who joined the crowd estimate by police to be at least 10,000 strong. "God created all of us. He's not a God of the United States, he's a God of the world."

n A god A d' Vida...


27 posted on 03/24/2006 1:22:47 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Even the poll on CNN.com right now has 57% in favor of the bill making illegals felons. I think some folks have a rude awakening coming.


28 posted on 03/24/2006 1:22:53 PM PST by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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"A Day Without Latinos"

I know....we could really stir things up if we did "A Day without U.S. Citizens"...

33 posted on 03/24/2006 1:36:36 PM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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36 posted on 03/24/2006 1:41:06 PM PST by Outland (Sustainable Horse Puckey)
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Hundreds of Los Angeles students walked out of their schools Friday morning to call attention to immigration issues.

What the hell did they think THAT would accomplish? Everyone gets to see how schoolrooms would be less crowded if they weren't there. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.

46 posted on 03/24/2006 2:07:35 PM PST by Hildy
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When you see those thousands of criminals marching in the streets, it is a testimony to the utter worthlessness of the US government in protecting our country from invasion. That weakness on display is not lost on our enemies and another attack is surely in the works. We certainly do not get our money's worth when we send it to the federal government, whose major Constitutional responsibility is to "provide for the national defense."


51 posted on 03/24/2006 2:40:52 PM PST by kittymyrib
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Ping!

As someone said early on, this does not help their cause with the American people...but it may sway the dunderheads in DC.


55 posted on 03/24/2006 2:58:38 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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I wonder who is organizing these rallies.

Communists.

56 posted on 03/24/2006 3:04:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance (www.usbordersecurity.org)
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