An "Ambiguous Document" Raises 9/11 Questions

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[genefromjersey]

“ Ambiguous” Document Raises Interesting 9/11 Questions

This is the text of a document seized from Iraqi Intelligence files during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

It is one of the translated documents aired by ABC TV in March,2006, and may have been printed in your hometown newspaper.

Please keep in mind it was written on 09/15/01.

In the name of God the merciful the compassionate
Presidency of the Republic
Intelligence Service
2/913/5th directorate

Sir: Director General of the 5th directorate

Subject: Information

Our Afghani source #002 (info on him in paper slip ‘1’) has informed us that Afghani consular Ahmed Dahistani (info on him in paper slip ‘2’) had spoken before him of the following:

1-That Usama Bin Ladin and the Taliban group in Afghanistan are in contact with Iraq and that a group from the Taliban and Usama Bin Ladin’s group had conducted a visit to Iraq.

2-That America possesses evidence that Iraq and Usama Bin Ladin’s group had cooperated to strike targets inside America.

3-In case Taliban and Usama’s group are proven involved in those sabotage operations, it will be possible that America directs strikes at Iraq and Afghanistan.

4-That the Afghani consular had heard about the Iraq connections with Usama Bin Ladin’s group during his presence in Iran.

5-In the light of what preceded we suggest writing to the Intentions Committee about the above information.

Please be informed…..your feedback please…..with appreciation.

)signature) (signature(

Information office send immediately to the Of the 5th directorate/3 Intentions Committee 9/15/2001

I call your attention to the opening, (and pious salutation) which makes it clear Iraq and the Taliban were sharing intelligence – possibly on an informal basis-prior to 9/11. (Not surprising, or even remarkable ; but worth keeping in mind when someone declares the sectarian Iraqis and fanatically religious Taliban could not possibly have had common interests.)

Item 1 in the report mentions something most of us have known for years: that “Usama bin Ladin's group” had visited Iraq. (Item 4 tells us how the Taliban came by this information.)

Item 2 is far more interesting: “…America possesses evidence that Iraq and Usama bin Ladin’s group had cooperated to strike targets inside America.” (Item 3 discusses the likely consequences.)

A. Please note the bald matter-of-factness of this statement; the lack of speculation or ambiguity.

B. How does somebody in Afghanistan know what evidence America possesses ?

C. If there is/was such evidence,who had it, and where is it now ?

Would I be “reading too much into this document” to suggest al-Qaeda had (and perhaps still has) a “mole” in the US Intelligence community ?

Someone so highly placed as to be aware of al-Qaeda/Iraqi cooperation ? Someone able to cover his/her tracks by “burying” evidence so deep in the files as to make it almost non-retrievable ?

Would I be too far out of line in suggesting such a person might have had prior knowledge of 9/11 ?

[eyespysomething]

An "Ambiguous Document" Raises 9/11 Questions

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[AmericaUnited]

Would I be “reading too much into this document” to suggest al-Qaeda had (and perhaps still has) a “mole” in the US Intelligence community ?

No. There are at least dozens, if you count the RATS in both the Senate and House Intelligence Committees.

[r9etb]

Would I be too far out of line in suggesting such a person might have had prior knowledge of 9/11 ?

No you wouldn't -- it's highly likely. But it's not a smoking gun, either.

OTOH, this document does show that there was a long-standing relationship between Iraq and bin Laden that preceeded 9/11 -- and that in itself is sufficient to justify the Iraq war on the grounds that Saddam was part of the terrorist network we're fighting.

The Left's hubris has been setting them up for a nasty fall for quite some time, and now they're starting to get slapped.

I have no doubt that the timing of these releases was in part due to the upcoming mid-term elections, and I have absolutely no problem with it. Bush understands that the Democrats in Congress are just another front (the "useful idiot" front) in the WOT. They must be defeated.

[kimosabe31]

Good post Gene. Your deductions regarding mole(s) are very reasonable. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the islamofascists had, in 09/01, many moles throughout our governmental institutions AND still do.

[eureka!]

Well said. Sad and scary that it is true....

[Spunky]

Is there a link to THE MORNING PAPER?

[genefromjersey]

http://mrmeangenesnews.blogspot.com

[justshutupandtakeit]

I don't believe that conclusion necessarily follows considering the fact that there was much discussion of Saddam and Osama working together. Remember the pharmaceutical factory in Sudan was considered to be a joint project by them.

All that information has been flushed down the Memory Hole since all Treason Media efforts are concentrated on bringing Bush down.

[CharlesWayneCT]

I don't know about this mole. I'm beginning to wonder though if there isn't a spy in the FBI, after hearing about how strongly lower-level FBI agents pushed the Massauoui information, and how the upper-level people say they never saw it.

It's almost like someone in the middle managed to get hold of the e-mails and edit them to remove the information, without being detected. A mole in the tech-support group, by any chance?

If you wanted to make sure to keep your activities secret, that would be a great place to get a person. Probably don't have the biggest security clearances because they don't make decisions, have to be geeks so they aren't vetted for policy, but could have access to every piece of information, and might be able to intercept and change reports, or at least tip off the terrorists if someone is getting suspicious.

[JimSEA]

Any intelligence operation needs native speakers with recent knowledge of the country. Arabic and other languages of this region are, apparently difficult to translate and, as a translator of Chinese said 1500 years ago, "reading a translation is like eating rice someone else has chewed." The translation misses the "texture" of the original. Thus a compromised translator gives several problems to the intelligence agency beyond out and out false information and relaying intelligence back to the enemy. Like journalism, "It is all in the spin."

[DocRock]

This doc was translated by Freeper jveritas (pinged for a great job) and earned Free Republic a mention in the World Net Daily for his efforts.

Link to FR Thread.

Link to jveritas original post on FR."

[genefromjersey]

I've got the link to the IF documents. Unfortunately, most are HUGE pdf files !

[DocRock]

Ping back at ya.

[Two-Bits]

I understand there was one visiting in Austrialia at the time of 9/11. I always wonder if 9/11 was one of the "land mines" they were bragging about leaving for President Bush when they left office. Knowing what they are capable of, it would not surprise me. Interesting how everything they try to point fingers at President Bush and his staff for are exactly the same things they have done themselves.

[johnny7]

McDermott in the House... Rockefeller in the Senate... start there.

[DocRock]

"I understand there was one visiting in Austrialia at the time of 9/11."

A year earlier than 9/11, Osama bin Laden tried to blow up a nuclear reactor in downtown Sydney during the 2000 Olympics. The media never mentions this fact.

CNN Article

[eyespysomething]

I downloaded most of them last week the night they came out, I'm updating now.

They are huge. I've been working at work and at home downloading them, and have to keep checking on my thumb drive what I have from this computer and that computer.

I'm going to sit down tonight I think and try to sort them by date. Then I'd like to compare that to some terror attacks, see what corresponds.

[Philistone]

B. How does somebody in Afghanistan know what evidence America possesses ?

Because he gave it us? Or knows someone who did? The same way Joe Wilson did (or thought he did)?

[HardStarboard]

Perhaps we should re-convene the braintrust of the 911 Commission to investigate this new information.

Brilliant, inquiring minds like those of Tom Kean, Lee Hamilton and Jamie Gorelick woud be sure to get to the bottom of the mystery created by this new Iraqi document.

[/sarcasm]