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Deportee's case may hold fate of thousands
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 03/22/2006 | Thomas Burr

Posted on 03/22/2006 8:17:49 AM PST by Boston Blackie

WASHINGTON - In a case that could affect hundreds of thousands of immigrants and their families, the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments today about whether a longtime Utah resident and businessman was illegally deported. There is no question that Humberto Fernandez-Vargas, a 53-year-old Mexican native who made his home in Utah for decades, was in the United States illegally. But the issue before the high court today is whether Fernandez-Vargas, and thousands like him, should have had the right to court hearings before being deported.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; deportation; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; mexico; scotus
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1 posted on 03/22/2006 8:17:51 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie

Maybe, just maybe, if we start enforcing the laws, people will start obeying them. Let him apply for admittance with special circumstances ....... from MEXICO.


2 posted on 03/22/2006 8:20:12 AM PST by right right
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To: Boston Blackie

Oh great.....let's just glut the courts more than they already are.


3 posted on 03/22/2006 8:21:39 AM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Boston Blackie

This is the best part:

"1969: Humberto Fernandez-Vargas entered the United States illegally.

1969-1981: Fernandez-Vargas was deported and re-entered the United States an unknown amount of times.

October 1981: Fernandez-Vargas was deported to Mexico.

January 1982: Fernandez-Vargas again entered the United States illegally."


4 posted on 03/22/2006 8:22:58 AM PST by Disturbin
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To: Boston Blackie

A person who violates a deportation order is ineligible for a green card or even a visa.

Based on the timeline I'd say the article presents a very slanted view of the events in question.


5 posted on 03/22/2006 8:23:43 AM PST by thoughtomator (Symmetry Inspector #7)
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To: Boston Blackie

What was Boston Blackie's occupation before he became an amatuer sleuth?


6 posted on 03/22/2006 8:24:19 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Boston Blackie

United States citizens have a right of access to the courts. If that right is extended to illegal aliens, then you can forget any kind of control over immigration at all. Our borders will be wide open. Or, as one Democrat said recently, it's illegal to cross the border illegally, but it's not illegal to be in the country illegally.

The prospect of spending money on police, jails, public defenders, and judges for every single illegal alien who gets into the country is simply inconceivable. You'd might as well just drop the whole idea of citizenship, and say that anybody who wants to come to America and live here is welcome to, and they can register with the Demcrats too, and get free schooling and medical care, and they don't have to pay social security or taxes.

In other words, a complete breakdown of our entire legal system, rendering the concept of citizenship meaningless.


7 posted on 03/22/2006 8:26:12 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

"You'd might as well just drop the whole idea of citizenship, and say that anybody who wants to come to America and live here is welcome to, and they can register with the Demcrats too, and get free schooling and medical care, and they don't have to pay social security or taxes. "

mmmm in case you haven't noticed....they have already done that.


8 posted on 03/22/2006 8:28:05 AM PST by sheana
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To: Boston Blackie

Reporter incompetence AGAIN.

These are OLD stories, these happen EVERY DAY. I bet the reporter is being played by some lawyer looking for PR.


9 posted on 03/22/2006 8:36:04 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: massgopguy
What was Boston Blackie's occupation before he became an amatuer sleuth?

Criminal, junkie & ex-con?

10 posted on 03/22/2006 8:46:17 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: longtermmemmory
These are OLD stories, these happen EVERY DAY.

Did the SCOTUS rule on this case in the past?

11 posted on 03/22/2006 8:48:54 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Cicero

What I think happened in this case is he did what 1000's of other illegal overstays do. They recieve a notice and then do not show up to court (false address etc).

The operative fact is that they are not LEGALLY in this country and you have to LEGALLY enter to have the benefits.

The author of this article is incompetent.


12 posted on 03/22/2006 8:51:47 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Boston Blackie

He lived in a state represented in congress by Amnesty advocates Orrin Hatch and Chris Cannon. So you can see how he was surprised when someone actually expected him to obey our laws.

While he's in Mexico, maybe he can work with the Mexican government to end the institutionalized corruption that drives jobs & investment out of what should be one of the world's richest countries............


13 posted on 03/22/2006 8:54:01 AM PST by Utahrd
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To: longtermmemmory
The operative fact is that they are not LEGALLY in this country and you have to LEGALLY enter to have the benefits.

I agree with that statement but unfortunately many state governments do offer benefits to illegals at the expense of citizens

14 posted on 03/22/2006 8:56:48 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Cicero

An administrative hearing on the facts:
1. is he the person in question
if yes, then go to question 2

2. did he enter illegally.

if yes, then the first bus out.


15 posted on 03/22/2006 8:58:08 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Boston Blackie

Safecracker


16 posted on 03/22/2006 9:02:14 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy

Indeed, A professional career that required skill and science.


17 posted on 03/22/2006 9:04:56 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie
They applied to him a law retroactive.

He is married to US citizen and has a 16-year-old child with her.

I think deportation was uncalled for, when he voluntarily went to the CIS building to get his papers in order. As a spouse of a US citizen, he qualifies for permanent resident status.

18 posted on 03/22/2006 9:06:29 AM PST by george wythe
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To: Disturbin

This is the best part:

"1969: Humberto Fernandez-Vargas entered the United States illegally.

1969-1981: Fernandez-Vargas was deported and re-entered the United States an unknown amount of times.

October 1981: Fernandez-Vargas was deported to Mexico.

January 1982: Fernandez-Vargas again entered the United States illegally."""

Funny how the media states the story in a manner that sounds like he NEVER left and kept re-entering illegally.....


19 posted on 03/22/2006 9:07:21 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: george wythe

He should have had his papers in order prior to his first entry into the U.S.


20 posted on 03/22/2006 9:11:20 AM PST by Boston Blackie
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