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Punishing apostasy
WND ^ | 3-21-06 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 03/21/2006 12:35:33 PM PST by duckln

Punishing apostasy

Posted: March 21, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Rahman was caught as he sought custody of two teenage daughters raised by their grandparents. He was found to be in possession of a Bible.

Confessing to being a Christian convert, Rahman has refused to recant and reconvert to Islam, preferring to die a Christian.

Under Sharia, strict Islamic law, a Muslim who rejects Islam is to be put to death. Rahman's prosecutor, Abdul Wisi, declared: "He would have been forgiven if he changed back. But he said he was a Christian and would always remain one. We are Muslims, and becoming a Christian is against our laws. He must get the death penalty."

Judge Ansarullah Mawlavezada, who conducted the one-day hearing, explained: "We are not against any particular religion. But in Afghanistan this sort of thing is against the law. It is an attack on Islam."

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Post-Taliban Afghanistan remains 99 percent Muslim. The Christians are numbered in the hundreds at most, and most remain secret Christians.

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If Rahman is put to death, he would be a martyr. And if there is a way we Americans can spare this Christian, we should find it.

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There is nothing new under the sun.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: buchanan; patbuchanan; persecution; rahman
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Pat puts it in perspective. But it was a bad idea then and is now and W's effords will permantly change it.

Interesting article I thought.

1 posted on 03/21/2006 12:35:36 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln

Interesting piece. Thanks for posting.


2 posted on 03/21/2006 1:01:23 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: duckln
Thanks for the usual dose of moral paralysis and equivalence, Pat.

I almost forgot that you were useless.

3 posted on 03/21/2006 1:04:14 PM PST by wideawake
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To: duckln
Post-Taliban Afghanistan remains 99 percent Muslim.

Not difficult to maintain stats like that when you execute anyone who isn't a Muslim.

4 posted on 03/21/2006 1:06:44 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: wideawake
>>>>>>>Thanks for the usual dose of moral paralysis and equivalence, Pat.

There was no "moral paralysis and equivalence." What do you propose, going to war in Afghanistan to install a government to our liking? Oh, wait, I forgot, we already did that, and this is the result.

5 posted on 03/21/2006 1:31:24 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: duckln
More on the subject of sharia law and apostasy here: "... according to the Shafites it is not only apostasy from Islam that is to be punished with death, but also apostasy from other religions when this is not accompanied by conversion to Islam. For example, a Jew who becomes a Christian will thus have to be put to death since the Prophet has ordered in general that everyone 'who adopts any other religion' shall be put to death..."
6 posted on 03/21/2006 1:34:47 PM PST by Sabatier
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To: Thorin
Thanks for regurgitating the same pablum Buchanan dished out.

I note with interest your use of the leftist trope that we only went to war in Afghanistan to install a puppet government, ahem, a "government to our liking."

More evidence that the palaeos like to hold hands with the Black Bloc.

7 posted on 03/21/2006 1:35:45 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Thorin

No, we intstalled a DEMOCRACY in a 99% Muslim and 75% illiterate country. It's just the "will of the people".

The election of Hamas also proves the "will of the people" in "palestine" (wherever that has ever been) is for war against Israel.

If Iran was a true democracy, I don't think the leadership would be any different.

God (not Allah) help us all if the Saudis and Egyptians get more democracy.

The common thing of all these places is the influence of the POLITICAL SYSTEM OF ISLAM. Islam is not a religion, and anyone practicing it should be convicted of sedition and deported from the shores of the USA.


8 posted on 03/21/2006 1:40:07 PM PST by 308MBR ("Ah fell in ta a bhurnin' ring o' far")
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To: wideawake
>>>>>I note with interest your use of the leftist trope that we only went to war in Afghanistan to install a puppet government, ahem, a "government to our liking."

I never said that was the only reason we went to war. I supported the war in Afghanistan (as did Buchanan) because the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden after 9/11.

We'd be fools to go to war in another country and not end up with a government to our liking. Unfortunately, as events like this show, importing "democracy" to the Mideast is a fool's errand, since the people likely to win elections are likely to do things we don't like, such as recognizing Islam as the source of law, as has been done in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

9 posted on 03/21/2006 1:43:07 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: 308MBR
>>>>>No, we intstalled a DEMOCRACY in a 99% Muslim and 75% illiterate country. It's just the "will of the people".

Exactly. Which is why no sensible person wants to import democracy to the Mideast by force of arms.

10 posted on 03/21/2006 1:49:30 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: duckln
there is only one solution to this problem really;
islam has to be expunged from the fabric of humanity ,
once and for all and forever.
Somehow , some way , it's got to go .
11 posted on 03/21/2006 2:05:23 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: wideawake
Wakeup, and hang in there.

Good first sentence, it makes the point. Radical Islam is in paralysis, and needs to change like other equivalent religions did before them.

Sadly, I haven't heard the the administration admit that we're in a religious war and how or if we will cure the paralysis.

Pat has an uncanny ability to focus on the cutting edge of what reality is.

12 posted on 03/21/2006 2:10:22 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln

The only true point in this article, is the fact that religion and government do not mix.


13 posted on 03/21/2006 2:14:36 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
It apparently not difficult to acquire stats like that, with a war of immigration and then intimidation of host populations.

The EU is finding that out.

14 posted on 03/21/2006 2:15:31 PM PST by duckln
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To: duckln
"Pat has an uncanny ability to focus on the cutting edge of what reality is."

Now, there's something you don't see every day, "Pat" (Buchanan) and "reality" in the same sentence.

15 posted on 03/21/2006 2:16:14 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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"Sadly, I haven't heard the the administration admit that we're in a religious war and how or if we will cure the paralysis."

"Pat has an uncanny ability to focus on the cutting edge of what reality is. "

Oh yeah?

"Yet, in his sense that we must avoid war with militant Islam, lest we find ourselves at war with all Islam, President Bush is surely right. In the last century, America was threatened by a global communist revolution. Avoiding all-out war, we outlasted it. And we can outlast this Islamist revolution. What we must avoid is a war of faiths, a war of civilizations between Islam and America. And those who propagandize for such a war are the unwitting or willful collaborators of Osama bin Laden." -- Pat Buchanan
Which reality are you talking about?

Yours, or everyone else's?

16 posted on 03/21/2006 2:20:50 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: 308MBR
You're on the right track, but I would as a first step deport those 'preaching' the violence.

And that would be a task in itself. Getting the right Immans, if that's not a oxy moron, could solve the problem. As in Iran, IMO it's better to replace the Immans than it is the Wackos in charge.

17 posted on 03/21/2006 2:25:56 PM PST by duckln
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The only true point in this article, is the fact that religion and government do not mix.

That's not what they think - and practice - in about every Muslim country. They mix them very closely.

It would be much more accurate to note, "Islam and freedom do not mix".

18 posted on 03/21/2006 2:29:38 PM PST by Gritty (The laws of God, Sharia, are already made and thus no legislative power is needed- Ayyub Axel Köhler)
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To: duckln

They do similar things in Hindu India. Several states have anti-conversion laws. Wherever it's done, it's wrong.


19 posted on 03/21/2006 2:29:53 PM PST by TBP
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Well, I think maybe they do. They are the basis or moral
fabric of the nation. But, if the religion is satanical corrupted, as in Radical Islam, then it has to be cleansed.
20 posted on 03/21/2006 2:34:00 PM PST by duckln
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