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Judge: No Deal For Teacher Who Slept With Her Student
The Indy Channel ^ | March 21, 2006 | AP

Posted on 03/21/2006 11:29:17 AM PST by Abathar

OCALA, Fla. -- A Florida judge said a plea deal for a Tampa teacher accused of having sex with a 14-year-old would "erode public confidence in" schools.

Marion County Circuit Judge Hale Stencil has rejected the plea deal for Debra Lafave, 25. The judge said the deal would undermine the credibility of the criminal justice system.

Prosecutors and the defense lawyer had urged the judge to accept the deal for the good of the boy. A psychiatrist told the judge the boy suffered extreme anxiety because of intense media coverage of the case and does not want to testify.

Lafave was charged in two counties where she's accused of having sex with the student.

A judge in Hillsborough County accepted a plea deal there in November and sentenced Lafave to three years of house arrest and seven years' probation. She pleaded guilty in November to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery for having sex with the boy in a classroom and her home.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Abathar

I would have taken her up on it in a heartbeat.....and that's a fact.


281 posted on 03/21/2006 1:11:44 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: najida
Just keep in mind what the root of all this 'boy/girl/good/bad sex' is.
It's not about sex at all.

I'm not sure what you're referring to -- do you mean 'relationships'? Cuz that's what I'm referring to. Typically, it's been my experience that women regret relationships that don't work out. Men typically don't. This is not 100% true for all people, of course, but I think it's true for most.

Yes, girls are very different about sex. But they like it just as much and need it too.

In my *personal* experience it's very different. Yes, girls like and want it too.

But boys' and girls' attitudes towards sex are *very* different. The reasons they engage in sexual activity are *very* different.

I don't think this boy is a victim. I think he is to blame, too. She's like a drug dealer. What she did was wrong, and it was also wrong of the 'buyer'.

282 posted on 03/21/2006 1:11:45 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: MonroeDNA
There is a real disconnect in our pedophilia statutes. A minor who is past puberty (14 thru 17) and who is attracted and attractive to persons of the opposite sex may need some protection from exploitation and undue influence, but the 18 year old partner is not a pervert and should not be a sex criminal.
283 posted on 03/21/2006 1:12:15 PM PST by anton
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To: commish

I'll take the job of punishing her.

But the most I can pay is $2000.


284 posted on 03/21/2006 1:13:25 PM PST by MonroeDNA (Look for the union label--on the bat crashing through your windshield!)
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To: r9etb
And I'll have to say that infantile attitudes like yours do nothing to help him learn to act like a man.

Um -- because I believe he should be held accountable for his actions here?

I'm thinking you have read your own biases into what I'm saying.

Somehow, I don't think you've heard my point. Maybe I'm not stating it clearly enough?

The boy is no 'victim', any more than drug buyers are victims.

285 posted on 03/21/2006 1:13:31 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Shalom Israel

Or he might tell all his bowling buddies about it, have agood laugh, then go home to his wife and kids. Speculation.


286 posted on 03/21/2006 1:13:58 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: NTW64
When I was 14 I would have walked three miles uphill barefoot on broken glass to ... well.....

Exactly my point. This kid isn't a victim.

He knew what he was doing. He did it willingly. And probably won't regret a second of it, ever.

287 posted on 03/21/2006 1:14:33 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: najida

LOL!


288 posted on 03/21/2006 1:15:05 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: najida

LOL...of course, from empirical analysis, most boys have to wonder, if that is true that young girls feel the same about sex...WHERE IN THE WIDE WORLD ARE THEY?

Heh, I can still hear THAT echo in my brain...:)


289 posted on 03/21/2006 1:15:10 PM PST by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: MonroeDNA
I'll take the job of punishing her.

LOL, back of the line bud. You can't miss it, it's the really really long one.

290 posted on 03/21/2006 1:15:19 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: YankeeGirl
I'd be just as pissed if my 14 year old son was molested by some teacher, male or female.

I wonder how many fathers would be trying to figure out a way to get in on the action.....

Not that I would, of course. Just wondering....

291 posted on 03/21/2006 1:15:57 PM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Dominic Harr

My guess would be the damage is coming from the subsequent events, media coverage, lack of privacy and all of that. His family is probably going nuts and ready to move out of state. By now the kid is probably wondering if the nookie was worth all the grief he is going through now (especially now that the cig has been smoked & the afterglow is long gone)


292 posted on 03/21/2006 1:16:06 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s
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To: najida

It's too bad we didn't know each other in high school.


293 posted on 03/21/2006 1:16:09 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: frogjerk
If the kid was seduced than he is the victim of the seducer.

All men then are 'victims' when they are seduced by women.

Again, I'm specifically talking about the 'age' thing here, that is what this thread is about, after all.

I wonder why I'm having such a hard time making myself understood?

The kid knew what he was doing. He wanted to, I guarantee you she didn't have to seduce him at all. He is to blame too. He is no victim.

294 posted on 03/21/2006 1:16:55 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: najida

The fact that men and women are different is not a "mixed message".


295 posted on 03/21/2006 1:17:53 PM PST by dinoparty
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To: rlmorel

Those girls are dating college guys.

Even 14 year old girls don't want 14 year old boys.

Only a sick adult female would 'get off' on not getting off with a boy. Talk about bottle rockets.


296 posted on 03/21/2006 1:17:57 PM PST by najida (I hate bullies- God, man or beast, it doesn't matter.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
My guess would be the damage is coming from the subsequent events, media coverage, lack of privacy and all of that.

Exactly -- he's more a "victim" of the court system than a "victim" of "sexual abuse".

297 posted on 03/21/2006 1:18:29 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Diamond

" He became so guilt ridden and remorseful that he was at the point of suicide for a time. "

because you and others in your church told him he should be. I am glad he got over it. Some time and maturity is usually all anyone needs to overcome the pointless recriminations of the holier than thou crowd.


298 posted on 03/21/2006 1:18:36 PM PST by monday
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To: Dominic Harr
Good point! Prolly safest if he tells her first!

I'll go ahead and say that if my husband had told me of anything like this in his past while we were dating I would have walked away in disgust. So this kid is really in a catch 22. If he doesn't tell the future love of his life and she finds out from another source he might be screwed. If he does tell the future love of his life she might be disgusted and quit seeing him. Sad that this teacher has added this complication to his life.

And one other thing. The guys at his school may be high fiving him but the girls are sticking their fingers down their throats when his name is mentioned. He is pretty much stuck with older skanks now.

299 posted on 03/21/2006 1:19:04 PM PST by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: monday
Why? This situation, if he does find Jesus latter on, he can blame the teacher.

What? That is really finding Jesus, I tell Ye!

300 posted on 03/21/2006 1:20:31 PM PST by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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