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Minutemen At ACLU Meeting for Illegal Aliens in Costa Mesa (PICS)
3/19/2006

Posted on 03/19/2006 7:04:38 PM PST by Ladycalif

Minutemen At ACLU Meeting for Illegal Aliens in Costa Mesa

Due to some excellent recon by Minuteman (name deleted), a group of Minutemen, led by Jim Gilchist, attended a meeting organized by the ACLU to encourage illegal aliens to protest the Mayor Mansoor’s plan to have the city police coordinate with ICE.

The meeting was lead by female attorney from the ACLU, Benito Acosta, recently arrested at the Cost Mesa City Council meeting, and John Earl a Huntington Beach “Socialist” who apparently did not get the memo from Stalin that the whole thing did not work out after all. Earl also co-operated with John Campbell in a smear campaign ageist Jim Gilchrist during the recent special election.

Approximately 1/3 of the attendees were Minutemen. They moved to the rear of the room at the request of Benito, to better accommodate local residents who had brought children. Earl and Acosta were very surprised and agitated to see the Minutemen and a tense meeting was held outside.

The meeting, which was held in Spanish, began with a general explanation of immigration law in the United States. Several of the Minutemen present speak Spanish. One interpreted for the rest. There were complaints that the translating was “disruptive.” This, from the same groups who refuse to speck English at City Council Meetings and insist on translators.

It was explained that while it was illegal to cross into the United States it was not a violation to be here. Special order 40 was lauded. The very small number of officers enforcing immigration was noted. It was noted the police of the City of Costa Mesa currently have no authority to enforce immigration law.

The Memorandum of Understanding proposed between the City of Costa Mesa and ICE was explained.

While there was no actual encouragement to actually break the law, there was much talk of how people would be afraid to co-operate with the police. It was stated the law would lead to poor relations between the police and the immigrant community and racial profiling. Domestic violence was mentioned several times.

The costs were described as being very high. No estimates were produced, either of the costs of the program or of possible offsets.

No connection was made as to why the police would randomly pull people over, as just being in the US illegally is not a criminal violation. This would seem akin to pulling someone over for doing the speed limit. There was no explanation as to where this new authority would come from as neither the local police nor ICE has it now.

The people were encouraged to “let their voice be heard.” Street protesting was encouraged. Flyers were passed out with the information for the City Council Meeting. People were encouraged to attend and speak. The flyers also had contact information for the Mayor and City Council Members, and again, they were urged to “let their voice be heard.” Entering the country legally, becoming a citizen and letting their voice be heard though voting was not mentioned as an option.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aclu; aliens; benitoacosta; costamesa; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; jimgilchrist; minutemen
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Gilchrist and 30 Year Costa Mesa Resident


1 posted on 03/19/2006 7:04:40 PM PST by Ladycalif
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To: Ladycalif

"It was explained that while it was illegal to cross into the United States it was not a violation to be here."

Amazing what a grasp of the situation the ACLU has.


2 posted on 03/19/2006 7:11:19 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: gondramB; Bikers4Bush; janetgreen; dennisw; gubamyster; nomad; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; SandRat; ...

ping


3 posted on 03/19/2006 7:14:41 PM PST by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Ladycalif

After 30+ years of enjoying what this land had/has to offer to foreigners such as myself, I am still amazed:
- How can an organization that promotes illegal activities continue to exist AND remain protected?
- Why don't those that support such organizations actually go LIVE for some years in other lands where 'freedom' does not include treason?
- How can self-appointed 'protectors' of the illegals actually sleep at night knowing that they are destroying the same infrastructure that educated them and ALLOWS them to express themselves even to the end of their own (and their land's) destruction?


4 posted on 03/19/2006 7:25:03 PM PST by elpinta (Never thought I would live in a Socialist country... but is getting close...)
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To: elpinta

John Earl's Website

http://www.ocorganizer.com/

Bennie gets arrested

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?page_id=531


5 posted on 03/19/2006 7:33:14 PM PST by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Travis McGee; archy

BTTT


6 posted on 03/19/2006 7:38:24 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: elpinta

The ACLU has become too far entrenched as an establishment arm of the Democrat party. Its goal is to undermine traditional Americans and their values and thus create a pattern of discontinuity to insure more social "problems" and thus allow the Democrat party to get a firmer grip through its unabashed ideology of the ultimate social State. Thus any challenge to the ACLU will not be tolerated and will be taken as a direct threat to the Democrat party and be dealt with accordingly. We are talking about a pure power grab here at any expense.


7 posted on 03/19/2006 7:47:17 PM PST by Norman Bates (Kirby Puckett †)
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To: Norman Bates

"Its goal is to undermine traditional... and their values and thus create a pattern of discontinuity to insure more social 'problems' ..."

Yup, I lived in this same environment in the 60's, with the 'students' promoting discontent and protesting everything amonst those of us that wanted an education, etc... to this day, they and their offsprings are still licking their infected mental sores and blaming everybody else for not moving forward at the speed of normal society.
They are uneducated, pathetic social leaches, and even while some may boast a PhD now and then, they are true vermint. All they can do is live off what someone else and generations before them produced with hard work and untold sacrifices.

It sickens me to think that all I will leave for the next generation is more of this degenerate and depraved missfits running things: because that is the way things are shaping up!


8 posted on 03/19/2006 7:57:25 PM PST by elpinta (Never thought I would live in a Socialist country... but is getting close...)
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To: Ladycalif; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!

Here's where the rest of the country is headed if the likes of MALDEF, LaRaza, and others have their way.


9 posted on 03/19/2006 7:59:45 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.proudpatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~)
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To: gondramB

""It was explained that while it was illegal to cross into the United States it was not a violation to be here." "




Huh?

So it's illegal to rob a bank but okay to keep the money?


10 posted on 03/19/2006 8:05:58 PM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: Mears
So it's illegal to rob a bank but okay to keep the money?

Well, I suppose if you claimed it on your taxes and didn't take any outrageous deductions and your check to the IRS doesn't bounce...

11 posted on 03/19/2006 8:11:35 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: elpinta
After 30+ years of enjoying what this land had/has to offer to foreigners such as myself, I am still amazed: - How can an organization that promotes illegal activities continue to exist AND remain protected? - Why don't those that support such organizations actually go LIVE for some years in other lands where 'freedom' does not include treason? - How can self-appointed 'protectors' of the illegals actually sleep at night knowing that they are destroying the same infrastructure that educated them and ALLOWS them to express themselves even to the end of their own (and their land's) destruction?

Big Joe McCarthy....had it pretty much correct...

imo

12 posted on 03/19/2006 8:11:56 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: Mears

" So it's illegal to rob a bank but okay to keep the money? "

Yes indeed if you are liberal-socialist-brainless person!!!

We have to keep in mind that the 'rules' only apply to those actions that fit our way of thinking... the laws of the land are irrelevant (obviously) and we are too lazy to move to lands where our livestyle matches the way the land is governed... why not move to Europe?

Yes, wordsmithing is taking one last turn that is just incredible!

Way too many lawyers amongst us... some that clearly can't make an honest living (few can actually).


13 posted on 03/19/2006 8:12:31 PM PST by elpinta (Never thought I would live in a Socialist country... but is getting close...)
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To: Ladycalif; HiJinx; gubamyster

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

14 posted on 03/19/2006 8:43:24 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: HiJinx

Thanks for the ping. BTTT!


15 posted on 03/20/2006 4:49:49 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PGalt

"It was explained that while it was illegal to cross into the United States it was not a violation to be here"

By that rationale, it's not ok for me to go into the girl's locker room at the gym, but it's ok for me to be in there?


16 posted on 03/20/2006 8:31:16 AM PST by Disturbin
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To: HiJinx
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


17 posted on 03/20/2006 8:35:46 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Ladycalif

Does anyone else see at as funny to see a "socialist" from a place with some of the most expensive real estate in the country?


18 posted on 03/20/2006 10:17:04 AM PST by Utahrd
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To: gondramB
"It was explained that while it was illegal to cross into the United States it was not a violation to be here."

Yup. And it's illegal to rob a bank, but it is not a violation to have money.

They're a lot of help.

Becki

19 posted on 03/20/2006 1:24:20 PM PST by Becki (Superman wears Jack Bauer pajamas.)
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To: Utahrd

Everyone but him...lol


20 posted on 03/20/2006 3:10:53 PM PST by Ladycalif (She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain. -- Louisa May Alcott)
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