[JoshGray]

the extensive homosexual indoctrination that kids are exposed to via GLSEN in schools, sex-ed, homosexual teachers and counselors, Girl Scouts (sometimes, obviously not all GS leaders are homosexual, but the organization does promote sexual activity and experimentation), entertainment and so on. Kids are literally encouraged and urged to "try it - you might like it!"

Mmmmm.... riiiiight -- cuz there were no homosexuals before GLSEN, the Boy/Girl Scouts, sex-ed in schools, etc.

"Marital sex tends toward the boring end. Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does ... The evidence is that men do a better job on men, and women on women if all you are looking for is an orgasm." (Dr. Paul Cameron, Rolling Stone, 18 March 1999)

[twippo]

Cameron may seem too critical, but I think his points should be examined. If they ex-gay movement is basing their curing methods on an incorrect etiology of homosexuality (i.e. same-sex parent issues), how successful can they be? And why would the Biblical condemnations against homosexuality ignore these psychological factors?

Paul's letter to the Romans points out that "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections...burned in their lust one toward another..." What cause? They "...changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator..." That is the etiology of homosexuality right there. The sin behind homosexuality is rejecting God and worshipping the self.

[little jeremiah]

Do you think I was saying that before the aggressive homosexual rights movement there was no homosexuality?

Dr. Cameron's point, if I understand it correctly, is that if a person has no interest in morality, love and marriage but is solely interested in extreme sexual gratification, no matter how acheived, then the "gay" life offers a great deal of no strings attached extreme sex. Of course, if a person is interested in love, morality and commitment, such extreme sex is repulsive.