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Before Scandinavia: These Could Be The First Skiers (China)
Christian Science Monitor ^ | March 15, 2006 | Robert Marquand

Posted on 03/18/2006 2:39:45 PM PST by blam

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To: muawiyah
"Certainly European-type people, but not necessarily what you call Caucasion, and certainly not Indo-European types."

I would like to disagree with you but, I've come to respect your knowledge of northern people. We'll let it ride...for now.(Ahem)

41 posted on 03/18/2006 5:25:31 PM PST by blam
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To: Nathan Zachary
That's just one site. This is a really big world. Lots of stuff happens out of our notice.

And maybe you weren't around for 2 million years, but that's your problem.

42 posted on 03/18/2006 5:28:08 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: blam
Thre must have been a very populous civilization to have built this. And even today, many "Indians" have light skin and blue eyes. Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
43 posted on 03/18/2006 5:30:14 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: blam
I believe Caucasians dominated this region at that time.

LOL...that will not go over well with our resident anti-Caucazoid.

44 posted on 03/18/2006 5:30:31 PM PST by wardaddy ("she's so FINE there's no telling where the money went.".........all my exes are hexes)
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To: blam
You are aware, of course, that ALL polar people have certain genes that set them apart from every other type of people on Earth.

That doesn't mean that they don't also have the same ancestry as the European, American Indian and East Asian people.

However, appearances can be deceiving!

45 posted on 03/18/2006 5:30:33 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
Oh, so you are saying you were around for 2 million years?

It's a shame you don't want to spend a little time reading a very good book and theory which has much geolocial science to validate it's theory.

That ends our discussion. I'm not closed minded. You obviously are. There is nothing to be learned fom closed minded people.

46 posted on 03/18/2006 5:35:50 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
The trick with India is simple ~ during the last period of maximum glaciation, a large percentage of humanity lived in India and Sri Lanka, particularly in the Temperate Zone (which was far larger in those days).

However, most of the ancestors of today's European people (and American Indians and East Asians) lived in an area to the NW of Greater India. This was an ice-free zone and gave tremendous access to big game.

After the glaciation had retreated, human populations moved out of India to the East, the North and the West. Another group had lived in the Middle East and they too moved out to the East, the North and the West. The ancestral Europeans did the same, plus one group moved to the South East.

Through the simple expedient of swapping females with adjoining or neighboring tribes, genes were swapped all over the place.

India has its fair share of human types, as does Europe and Asia.

The polar peoples, however, have been a bit isolated for several thousand years, and have developed (and spread around) some characteristics that better adapt them to Arctic climate.

47 posted on 03/18/2006 5:37:41 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: blam

I think that we will see more of these China-first articles in the next few years.


48 posted on 03/18/2006 5:39:33 PM PST by Chickensoup (The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.The water in the pot is getting warmer, froggies.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
I didn't say I'd been around for 2 million years. After all, I can read books and studies.

You might pay attention to debating the issues.

49 posted on 03/18/2006 5:39:48 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
You are aware, of course, that ALL polar people have certain genes that set them apart from every other type of people on Earth.

Actually, to put it simply, we all have the same DNA and genes. Some of us have certain "switches" turned on, and in some of us they are turned off.

See http://freerepublic.com/~daveloneranger/links?U=%2Ffocus%2Ff-news%2Fbrowse for a specific discussion.

50 posted on 03/18/2006 5:48:07 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Ah, Those pyramid builders.

Here's a descent book on them:

Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders

Book Description

" Is it a mere coincidence that pyramids are found across our globe? Did cultures ranging across vast spaces in geography and time, such as the ancient Egyptians; early Buddhists; the Maya, Inca, Toltec, and Aztec civilizations of the Americas; the Celts of the British Isles; and even the Mississippi Indians of pre-Columbian Illinois, simply dream the same dreams and envision the same structures? Scientist and tenured university professor Robert M. Schoch-one of the world's preeminent geologists in recasting the date of the Great Sphinx-believes otherwise. In this dramatic and meticulously reasoned book, Schoch, like anthropologist Thor Heyerdahl in his classic Kon-Tiki, argues that ancient cultures traveled great distances by sea. Indeed, he believes that primeval sailors traveled from the Eastern continent, primarily Southeast Asia, and spread the idea of pyramids across the Earth, involving the human species in a far greater degree of contact and exchange than experts have previously thought possible. "

51 posted on 03/18/2006 5:49:26 PM PST by blam
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To: Petey139

Does freestyle aerial skiing count as an Alpine event? (It certainly ain't Nordic, if you assume Nordic = cross-country = flat.)

'Cuz in Italy last month Han Xiaopeng won gold for the men in that event, and Nina Li took the women's silver.


52 posted on 03/18/2006 5:52:31 PM PST by Tenniel (I'm against a homogenized society because I want the cream to rise. -- Robert Frost)
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To: muawiyah
The trick with India is simple ~ during the last period of maximum glaciation, a large percentage of humanity lived in India and Sri Lanka, particularly in the Temperate Zone (which was far larger in those days). blah blah blah

A massive shift of the continents blows a big whole in those old, tired "stories' which BTW, have very shakey arguments that try prove them. Anyways. As i said, I don't bother debating with those who know it all.

53 posted on 03/18/2006 5:52:58 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: blam
Blam, thing to follow is the cinnamon effect. People with Type II diabetes can consume a teaspoon or so per day of ground cinnamon and keep their blood sugar levels down to normal or near normal levels.

In fact, Type II diabetics with an insulin deficit can use cinnamon successfully, since the combined result of cinnamon and insulin is greater than the effect you would get with that much cinnamon alone.

The Sundaland hypothesis is coincident with the world's most prolific cinnamon growing land.

In fact, Sri Lanka (Cylon) has 800 different species of cinnamon, and uncounted varieties. Viet Nam continues to be the best spot on Earth for cinnamon.

If modern humanity developed it's initial tool kit in this area, modern humanity also managed to acquire a need, not just a liking, for cinnamon!

54 posted on 03/18/2006 5:53:40 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
"That doesn't mean that they don't also have the same ancestry as the European, American Indian and East Asian people."

Yes. But I don't understand it very well. I have a new book on order, The Red Paint People - A Lost American Culture, by Bruce Bourque. I hope to learn some...the Red Paint People are believed to have some association with the 'Northern People.' We'll see.

55 posted on 03/18/2006 5:54:52 PM PST by blam
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To: Nathan Zachary

Please check out Scandinavian Porphyria.


56 posted on 03/18/2006 6:01:16 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: blam

I hope you will share his theories. Ships however, assume that the continents were always as they are now. There is much newer goelogical evidence that people simply walked, that all land was connected at one time or another.

I'm pressed for time. hopefully another day


57 posted on 03/18/2006 6:04:38 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
Hard to move a continent around in a mere 35,000 years. Now I know it's otherwise easy if you have several hundred million to do the job.

BTW, it's not necessary to move continents at all to change land shapes substantially. Just raise and lower the ocean several hundred feet at regular intervals. You wouldn't believe.

58 posted on 03/18/2006 6:07:00 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
"If modern humanity developed it's initial tool kit in this area, modern humanity also managed to acquire a need, not just a liking, for cinnamon!"

That's interesting about the cinnamon. I have never liked it and just recently heard my brother say it made him physically sick. So...

59 posted on 03/18/2006 6:08:04 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
There's a belief that during glacial maximums that it's possible to safely travel in small boats along the Southern edge of the North Atlantic pack ice ~ and thereby move people from Europe to America, and vice versa.

I think right now we don't have enough geologic evidence to prove or disprove the idea. On the other hand, we found a European style stone arrow head (actually a spear point) in the tailings of a well drilled on our land in Indianapolis.

This undoubtedly came from what had been the surface circa 35,000 BC.

60 posted on 03/18/2006 6:09:55 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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