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1 posted on 03/17/2006 9:54:35 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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bump


2 posted on 03/17/2006 9:56:07 AM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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We better invade soon.
Before the brutal Iranian summer.
3 posted on 03/17/2006 9:58:23 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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My bags are still packed, when do we leave?

What the hell am I going to do with snorkling gear in Iran?


6 posted on 03/17/2006 10:01:05 AM PST by Redleg1963
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It'll sound "eerily similar" when we need to take care of business in North Korea too.


8 posted on 03/17/2006 10:01:38 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Iran has always been the main enemy. I have always thought (hoped is more like it) that the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq were done at least in part to place Iran in a vice with a view to a future attack against them.

Note that this guy, like just about all opponents of the war, argues from the basis that Iraq is a "debacle". It is no such thing. The issue is not in doubt militarily. The only issue in doubt is whether or not the leftists can succeed in so undermining the morale of the American people (and through this effort they will undermine the morale of the Iraqis as well) as to bring about a collapse of the war effort here. If they succeed in this they will be able to repudiate Bush, effectively block and/or reverse his agenda (some of that might be a good thing though I doubt the leftists dislike the things I dislike) and then sit around and celebrate their "victory". And in a few years (maybe months) we will be counting the dead in the Middle East and very likely in Europe and here at home by the tens-of-thousands. If the leftists succeed the war will have to fight as a result of their "victory" will dwarf what we have to do today.


9 posted on 03/17/2006 10:03:11 AM PST by scory
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Rush is right!

We need to get Democrats on record now about how they would handle the nuclear crisis in Iran!

Would Democrats support a preemptive strike on Iran in order to protect Israel?

10 posted on 03/17/2006 10:04:39 AM PST by TexasCajun
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If Iran exploding a nuclear weapon on Long Island, this guy would still be attacking the Bush administration.


11 posted on 03/17/2006 10:04:42 AM PST by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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I hope this time we just go in there, pound them and their cities and towns, mosques, military centers and industrial complexes to hell, than pull out with a promise to come back again real soon if they act suspicious or belligerent again.

Then do the same thing to the Syrians.
12 posted on 03/17/2006 10:07:23 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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The US will not go Iran alone. We might go with NATO. But if the EUROs want Iran tamed they will have to ask and be involved.

Any unilateral actions will be by Israel. Then the "fit will hit the shan".

14 posted on 03/17/2006 10:20:52 AM PST by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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Who was the last Iranian (Persian) to win a war ..... Darius the Great?


16 posted on 03/17/2006 10:23:44 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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For a strong conservative, I am pretty p.o.'d at the president for his aloofness, ignorance, arrogance, and tendency to surround himself with suckups. Nonetheless, he is, of course, infinitely preferrable to the lunatic Gore or the traitorous (his principles are "traitorous," insofar as he ~has~ principles ).

Forgive the preface above, this is a defence of 43 and, really, of all leaders.

We -- the U.S. and the world -- have got ourselves in an awful thicket in uncountable ways. So if you try to stop barbarism in Iraq, then you must explain why you didn't try to stop it North Korea, instead. Or, if you try to pre-empt a nuclear nightmare in Iran, we want to know why you didn't FIX Iraq and worry with North Korea. If you go after North Korea, maybe a nuke lands on an American city. Maybe this happens anyway. And, hey, why not smackdown Chavez, while he is still manageable? Maybe because you would be find yourself indicted in the Hague for crimes against humanity, etc. (although not by me).

I wish we had a more thoughtful, confidence-inspiring, conservative leader. But NOBODY is going to manage these problems and come out a winner. It is a good time to be old.

18 posted on 03/17/2006 10:28:44 AM PST by LK44-40
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"As we can all appreciate now, one of the major problems with the preventive war doctrine is that it doesn't work very well unless you have accurate, credible intelligence. That turned out not to be the case in Iraq."

Serious breakdown in the author's analysis. Iraq had a lot of WMD. Most of it went to Syria before the war, but it wasn't a perfect clean-up and some extremely hazardous chemical weapons were left behind in Iraq. We said the intelligence was wrong and Iraq didn't have chemical weapons so the insurgents wouldn't go looking for them and use them on our troops and Iraqi civilians. The White House took a political loss to protect our troops.

This editorial is a very shallow, weak analysis that tries to turn Bush & Cheney into the issue, instead of Iran. Notice how little effort and thought the writer gives to the real threat from Iran. Also notice that he totally assumes away the great difficulty in determining whether there is an imminent threat of nuclear attack from another country. Guess what, they won't tell us when they're about to launch those nuclear cruise missiles, and if we let them build the first few nuclear weapons then how do we stop them from building a full nuclear arsenal? The author is a lightweight who should not be taken seriously.

19 posted on 03/17/2006 10:37:10 AM PST by carl in alaska (The raven watching news of the Florida recounts stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven..."NeverGore.")
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Of course, the world will be a more dangerous place if Iran does develop nuclear weapons. This is a very serious, worrisome problem. But it's a complex situation, much more complicated than Iraq was with the brutal dictatorship of Hussein.

No, it isn't.

As we can all appreciate now, one of the major problems with the preventive war doctrine is that it doesn't work very well unless you have accurate, credible intelligence.

The case is a non-starter. To equate the two situations is simply to ignore the facts - at one point in this column the author appears to accept that the Iranians are doing what they say they're doing and here he pretends that there is uncertainty. So which is it? And if he has a better idea than to wring his hands and bleat the the situation is "complex" I'd love to hear it.

20 posted on 03/17/2006 10:38:39 AM PST by Billthedrill
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This is a hilariously dumb editorial. Are you sure this isn't from a high school newspaper?

24 posted on 03/17/2006 10:50:30 AM PST by defenderSD (¤¤ Wishing, hoping, and praying that Saddam will not nuke us is not a national security policy.)
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nation building, which has been utterly bungled in Iraq

There might be a few true statements in the article, but there are also some unsupportable claims. This is a widespread practice in polemicism: mingle some truth with bald assertions.

26 posted on 03/17/2006 11:02:24 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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We had bettr not disband the Iranian military.


29 posted on 03/17/2006 11:21:05 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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Sounds like the run up to the Iraq war. No, not realy. You see it has to go before the UN a couple of yrs. and, in the mean time Iran will have their nuke and we will not touch them.


35 posted on 03/17/2006 12:17:30 PM PST by buck61 (luv6060)
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