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...from the size of a marble to larger than the currently observable universe in a trillionth of a trillionth of a second.

Enough said.

1 posted on 03/17/2006 3:46:38 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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Ping


2 posted on 03/17/2006 3:47:34 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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God's work is truly amazing. Of course one must understand that his "timepiece" is quite different from ours.


3 posted on 03/17/2006 3:50:03 AM PST by FerdieMurphy (For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
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Dennis Overbye's take in the New York Times:

Astronomers Find the Earliest Signs Yet of a Violent Baby Universe

4 posted on 03/17/2006 3:51:36 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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What would you call the place where the marble-sized universe was located? What were its physical properties? Do we say that an infinitely large space containing nothing, a total vacuum, was then and has since been filled by a universe of objects ranging from galaxies to sub-atomic particles?

Would you want to stand next to the marble-sized universe, if you could be assured of escaping to a safe distance before detonation?

5 posted on 03/17/2006 3:54:01 AM PST by ExGeeEye (All Hail the Great Folger, creator of hot brown goodness.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
...from the size of a marble to larger than the currently observable universe in a trillionth of a trillionth of a second.

Source please? Thanks.

10 posted on 03/17/2006 4:02:54 AM PST by ordinaryguy
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To: snarks_when_bored

My feeble understanding of science, is that you can't make something out of nothing. How can you take mass the size of a marble and generate the relative mass of the universe, much less our solar system, or even my back yard, without adding something along the line?


15 posted on 03/17/2006 4:10:23 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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Someone ping me when we have answers to questions such as: Where did the marble-size universe come from? If the Big Bang happened at time X, what was there before time X? Seems to me any Theory of Everything must explain how space-time started and what existed (if that's the right word) before it started (if that concept means anything).


19 posted on 03/17/2006 4:14:29 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer (Visit the Iran Crater in 2008)
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"Oldest light shows universe grew fast, researchers say [inflationary cosmology gets a big boost]"

Faster than you think. Seven days, in fact.


41 posted on 03/17/2006 4:47:33 AM PST by RoadTest ("- - a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people." - Richard Henry Lee, 1786)
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...from the size of a marble to an astronomical size in just a trillionth of a second...

And these guys will laugh when somebody says it was created in seven days???

45 posted on 03/17/2006 5:00:39 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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"Scientists examining the oldest light in the universe say they've found clear evidence that matter expanded at an almost inconceivable rate after the big bang, creating conditions that led to the formation of the first stars."

Hmmm. Sounds like, "And God said, 'Let there be light'," to me.


53 posted on 03/17/2006 6:11:08 AM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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"Light from the big bang's afterglow shows that the universe grew from the size of a marble to an astronomical size"

The article excerpt states that the universe grew to 'an astronomical size', not to a size larger than the observable universe. Does the full article support your statement?

56 posted on 03/17/2006 6:47:41 AM PST by nuf said (I am, therefore I think.)
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From The Australian:


Evidence adds bang to cosmic theory
Leigh Dayton, Science writer
18mar06

SCIENTISTS have obtained the best evidence yet that the universe expanded from the size of a marble to the vastness of known space in the first trillion trillion trillionth of a second of its existence.

This phenomenal growth, called "inflation", is part of a set of cosmic events known collectively as the Big Bang and was first proposed in 1979 by US physicist Alan Guth.

"It's something of a triumph for Guth and the people who developed the inflation scenario that 25 years later we get this level of detail and confirmation of inflation," said cosmologist Paul Davies of Macquarie University.

That key detail came from NASA's Wilkinson Anisotropy Probe (WMAP) satellite, launched in 2001. Using WMAP data, researchers mapped the directionality, or polarisation, of the faint afterglow of the intense heat of the Big Bang, the cosmic microwave background radiation.

Like a cosmological fossil, the polarisation reveals the shape of space preceding it, thus providing the evidence for inflation. And since the polarisation was affected by the first stars, the team determined that those stars formed 400million years after the Big Bang.

"We have never before been able to understand the infant universe with such precision," said WMAP principal investigator Charles Bennett of The Johns Hopkins University and Goddard Spaceflight Center, both in Maryland.

"It appears that the infant universe had the kind of growth spurt that would alarm any mom or dad," he said.

What caused that growth spurt? Cosmologists suspect it was the breakdown of a "superforce" that co-existed with the force of gravity. It split into the electromagnetic force and the strong and weak nuclear forces. But to find out for sure, Professor Davies says the next step is to obtain evidence about exactly what went on during the inflation phase.

             © The Australian

57 posted on 03/17/2006 6:49:15 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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What about the universal constant-the speed of light? Where's Einstein when he's needed? This is truly baffling to non-astronomers like me.


64 posted on 03/17/2006 7:06:59 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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Sean Carroll has detailed comments:

WMAP results — cosmology makes sense!

70 posted on 03/17/2006 7:35:45 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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The WMAP site:  New Three Year Results on the Oldest Light in the Universe

A nice pic from that site:


72 posted on 03/17/2006 7:42:16 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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This piece of news is getting wide publication, many articles, many threads. No doubt many minds are tripping out on this information if it is new to them. However, it seems to be confirmation of Guth's inflation hypothesis rather than a new model.


81 posted on 03/17/2006 10:47:47 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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"It amazes me that we can say anything about the first trillionth of a second of the universe, but we can," Bennett said.

wink, wink....

103 posted on 03/18/2006 9:36:44 AM PST by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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