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Terrorists Can't "Face Our Forces in Battle," So They Use IEDs, Bush Says
American Forces Press Service ^ | Steven Donald Smith

Posted on 03/13/2006 5:49:15 PM PST by SandRat

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To: busybody

The difference is that calling a Muslim a coward cuts to the heart of his manhood, and make them insane.

The Minutemen knew they had to abide by such tactics until such a time when they could match The British in the field with equal forces.

Al Queda will never have the numbers to do so because when they'd rather blow themselves up than fight.

The whole asymetrical war concept has a serious flaw, it supposes that suicide bombings and IEDs will be enough to cause us to lose. When we "lose" Al Queda believes that they will be allowed to take over when we leave.

That won't ever happen.


21 posted on 03/13/2006 6:56:18 PM PST by usmcobra (I always sing Karaoke the way it is meant to be sung, drunk, badly, and in Japanese)
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To: busybody
I agree with you 100%.

"After the terrorists were defeated in battles in Fallujah and Tal Afar, they saw they could not confront Iraqi or American forces in pitched battles and survive, and so they turned to IEDs, a weapon that allows them to attack from a safe distance without having to face our forces in battle," Bush said during a speech at George Washington University's Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

I can't believe I'm reading this, and I can't believe he managed to keep a straight face while he said this. I guess I missed all that news about terrorists waging war with aircraft carriers, Predator drones, guided missiles, Stealth aircraft, cluster bombs, depleted-uranium munitions, night-vision capability, etc.

Good heavens -- this is the height of either idiocy or hypocrisy.

22 posted on 03/13/2006 7:28:47 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: SandRat

I'll give it a week before some left-wing putz pronounces a document as false.


23 posted on 03/13/2006 7:32:49 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What? Me worry?)
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To: busybody
Americans fought "asymetrically", ambushing, targeting the British officers, attacking supply lines. Here in Iraq, we are faced with an enemy who also fights "asymetrically". Calling the enemy "cowards" didn't win the war for the British, nor will it win the war in Iraq. IEDs are a deadly, effective way to kill American troops. Calling the insurgents "cowards" only displays the frustration on our part and signals our weakness at neutralizing this tactic. Better that we just admit that they are "clever" and get on with the task of killing them all.


Excellent, worth repeating.

We should have smashed Syria and Iran long ago. Instead all we do is complain that the Iranians aren't playing fair. The fact is the Iranians are being allowed to play unfairly by the White House.

We allow them for years now, to support Anti-American forces. And worst of all we allow the Iranians to place as Prime Minister of Iraq, a former terrorist of the Anti-American DAWA party, Ibraim Jaafari. The Iranians couldn't be happier.

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24 posted on 03/13/2006 7:38:48 PM PST by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: Grut

Go figure ... Those cowardly, cheating terrorists using car bombs, suicide bombers, IEDs. They should come out in the open and fight like men.

Who could have predicted that they would stoop to this?

/sarcasm


25 posted on 03/13/2006 7:45:25 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: SandRat

the President can't be serious - we are now reduced to calling out in frustration "come out here and fight like a man!"??? Give the enemy some credit, of course he's going to fight to his strength.

Maybe we should give up our vastly superior firepower and issue veryone dueling pistols - just to make it a fair fight / sarc ...


26 posted on 03/13/2006 7:58:28 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: busybody

I disagree - despicable, craven cowards is a far too kind and generous an epithet for those who kidnap civilians torture and murder their prisoners, and otherwise violate the bounds of humanity.


27 posted on 03/13/2006 8:06:11 PM PST by MainFrame65
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To: Republican Party Reptile
"There are some who feel like -- that the conditions are such that they can attack us there. My answer is, bring them on."
--George W. Bush, July 2, 2003
28 posted on 03/13/2006 8:10:17 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: busybody

Uhm... Calling a muslim a coward IS a strategic move.

They generally cannot STAND being called cowards (even though they are) so they stand up and fight (and are slaughtered).

From the documents I've seen, US fighting forces have been quite successful in defeating muslim fighters by telling them (via loudspeaker) that they were worthless cowards. Brings them out spraying and praying every time.

The C-in-C is just doing a larger version of the loudspeaker thing.


29 posted on 03/13/2006 8:18:57 PM PST by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: usmcobra
"The whole asymetrical war concept has a serious flaw, it supposes that suicide bombings and IEDs will be enough to cause us to lose. When we "lose" Al Queda believes that they will be allowed to take over when we leave. That won't ever happen."

That's all true, but the *primary* flaw to asymetrical warfare is that it can't defend territory (e.g. Mecca). That's why whatever is left of the Taliban is hiding in Afghan caves right now rather than running the country from Kabul or Kandahar.

When you can't defend ground you wind up hiding and running (e.g. Hussein being caught in a spider hole). You depend upon the locals not ratting you out (lest you wind up like Khalid Shiekh Muhamed in Pakistan).

30 posted on 03/13/2006 8:25:27 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: deks

Chris Plant (WMAL-Washington, D.C.) says the anti IED program was in development for 10 months and was considered 90% effective against IEDs

Topics:
IED neutralizer secret given to enemy.
Reporting is getting soldiers killed.
US press is aiding enemy.
Publishing national security secrets, when does it become treason?


31 posted on 03/13/2006 8:26:51 PM PST by deks
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To: Republican Party Reptile
"the President can't be serious - we are now reduced to calling out in frustration "come out here and fight like a man!"??? Give the enemy some credit, of course he's going to fight to his strength."

It's called baiting your opponent; goading your enemy into behaving more foolishly.

That's not "frustration," that's genius.

32 posted on 03/13/2006 8:28:50 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Ok, let's save this thread and if and when our next engagement with the enemy in Iraq is a battalion sized conventional battle in which we kick their sorry ass, ... then we can call it genius.
33 posted on 03/13/2006 8:53:03 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: Grut

Duh is right.

What am I supposed to do now?

The assholes calling themselves Democrats are now supposed to get my vote and support?

I am thinking more and more about fleeing into the mountains.


34 posted on 03/13/2006 8:59:07 PM PST by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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To: busybody
"Here in Iraq, we are faced with an enemy who also fights "asymetrically".

Are you in Iraq?

35 posted on 03/13/2006 9:01:21 PM PST by Radix (Stop domestic violence. Beat abroad.)
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"Ok, let's save this thread and if and when our next engagement with the enemy in Iraq is a battalion sized conventional battle in which we kick their sorry ass, ... then we can call it genius."

There's more than one way to behave foolishly (grin). If the insurgents suddenly equate their IEDs with being cowards such that IED attacks are reduced, then Bush Wins Again TM

36 posted on 03/13/2006 9:40:00 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 03/13/2006 10:00:58 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: SandRat

ping


38 posted on 03/14/2006 12:20:21 AM PST by SR 50 (Larry)
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To: SandRat
Terrorists Can't "Face Our Forces in Battle," So They Use IEDs...

As well as EIDs...


39 posted on 03/14/2006 2:27:25 AM PST by XR7
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To: busybody
I really don't like comparing these child murdering bastards to our forefathers. I am reasonably sure that George Washington's men never slaughtered children or targeted women.
40 posted on 03/14/2006 2:43:45 AM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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