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Prof: Don't look to '08 dems
The Washington Square News ^ | 03/08/2006 | Zack Barangan

Posted on 03/08/2006 4:02:48 PM PST by pjsbro

Prof: Don't look to '08 dems by Zack Barangan

March 08, 2006

Former Democratic consultant Robert Shrum spoke at the NYU School of Law yesterday, answering students’ questions about his role in John Kerry’s 2004 presidential run and offering his own theories about how the Democratic party can reclaim influence in America. Shrum — who most recently was a consultant for the Gore and Kerry presidential campaigns in 2000 and 2004 — spoke at the lecture titled “Using Your Law Degree in Public Service and Politics,” sponsored by the Law Democrats.

Shrum, who is now a senior fellow at the Wagner Graduate School of Public Service and also teaches a freshman honors seminar, is famous for writing Ted Kennedy’s 1980 Democratic National Convention speech and has been involved in eight presidential campaigns.

He said he is not optimistic about the Democratic Party’s chances of taking the 2008 presidential election with Hillary Clinton. It will be difficult to beat Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz who is expected to run in 2008, because of his influence on Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, which may be key swing states, he said.

“I’m worried that the sense that she can’t win the election will spread,” he said, though he said her party approval is her greatest asset.

Shrum also spoke about the difficulties of Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign, the last campaign he worked on.

“I believe it was really critical to try and beat Bush,” he said. “John Kerry gets more grief than he should.”

The democratic voters perceived that Kerry was the only candidate who could beat Bush, though he lacked the emotional connection with voters that Clinton had, he said. Kerry is also likely to make a run for the presidency again in 2008, Shrum said.

“I think [Kerry] has every right to run again; the man was almost voted president,” he said. “But he has to make a case.”

For the 2008 election, Shrum said he intends to be a commentator on MSNBC, staying out of the race.

Though Democrats are not likely to take the presidency, Shrum said he expects the Democrats to regain a majority in the House of Representatives in 2006.

“We could beat Tom DeLay, but the real icing on the cake would be exterminating him,” he said.

The minority vote is also a factor that Democrats take need to consider, he said.

“We need to pay more attention to the African-American vote,” Shrum said. “They vote Democrat, and we take them for granted.”

If Democrats want to reach out to minorities, they need to focus on citizens of cities like Cleveland and Cincinnati who are vital to the party, Shrum said.

“We need to believe in and put as much effort into these communities as Republicans put into fundamentalist communities,” Shrum said. “The Democratic Party is in need of someone getting involved with grassroots campaigns and making an impact.”

In general, Democrats need to state outright what they believe and stand by their statements, Shrum said. Most Democrats are “too traumatized” and calculating, he said.

“I doubt very much we’ll win the culture war by hiding in a foxhole and hope no one notices you and the things you believe,” he said


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kerrydefeat; shrum
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1 posted on 03/08/2006 4:02:52 PM PST by pjsbro
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“We could beat Tom DeLay, but the real icing on the cake would be exterminating him,” he said.

I realize that he's referring to DeLay's former occupation, but isn't that advocating, um, how you say, murder?

2 posted on 03/08/2006 4:06:03 PM PST by Salvey (ancest)
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"We could beat Tom DeLay, but the real icing on the cake would be exterminating him"....spoken like a true dementacrat....piss on all of them.
3 posted on 03/08/2006 4:07:19 PM PST by stm (UNC class of 1980)
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answering students’ questions about his role in John Kerry’s 2004 presidential run and offering his own theories about how the Democratic party can reclaim influence in America.

My own theory is that the Democrats all need to wear more earth tones.

4 posted on 03/08/2006 4:09:21 PM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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See this scares me. Anything Schrum has done or said has always been wrong. /s

I remember him saying to Kerry "May I be the first to say, Congratulations Mr. President?" I'm still laughing about that ultimate smackdown ZOT to the flip-flop meister.

5 posted on 03/08/2006 4:09:58 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing)
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Name me one candidate Shrum worked for that acually WON an election?


6 posted on 03/08/2006 4:10:05 PM PST by Hildy
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"In general, Democrats need to state outright what they believe and stand by their statements, Shrum said. Most Democrats are “too traumatized” and calculating, he said. “I doubt very much we’ll win the culture war by hiding in a foxhole and hope no one notices you and the things you believe,” he said"

Schlump is a bozo but this statement is unintentionally quite revealing about the true DEPRAVITY of our Demagogic Party: they are nearly all liars and prevaricators who will not tell the public what they really stand for. What Schlump doesn't get into is WHY the 'Rats are unable to be forthright about what they really stand for: they know that outside the pockets of the bluest cities they will never win elections in the USA if the public understands how relentlessly far-left nearly all of this party and its candidates are. They are liars and deceivers on a monumental scale, with great assistance from the dishonest MSM, because they know that they cannot win campaigns based upon their real beliefs and programs.
7 posted on 03/08/2006 4:10:14 PM PST by Enchante (Democrats: "We are ALL broken and worn out, our party & ideas, what else is new?")
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“They vote Democrat, and we take them for granted.”

Talk about redundancy.

8 posted on 03/08/2006 4:10:22 PM PST by Monti Cello
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“We could beat Tom DeLay, but the real icing on the cake would be exterminating him,” he said.

Bob Shrum can't be that stupid as to say that. Can't exactly say that it was taken out of context...although, with the LameScream Fraudcast Media giving him a free pass, who knows?

9 posted on 03/08/2006 4:10:24 PM PST by Christian4Bush (I'd much rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy.)
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To: Hildy
Isn't Shrum like zero for a lifetime as a political consultant?
10 posted on 03/08/2006 4:13:20 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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"The democratic voters perceived that Kerry was the only candidate who could beat Bush, though he lacked the emotional connection with voters that Clinton had,"

What? You mean the bitter, angry and hateful "connection" she has to the country and its people NOW?

No chance in hell of her winning a national election. ZIP.


11 posted on 03/08/2006 4:13:39 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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What's with the rats' preoccupation with McVain? Notice the lamestream media never mentions George Allen, the only conservative thinking of running.

Just wait till the fall elections are over, I can't wait for Allen's intention to run and slap down the libnutmedia.


12 posted on 03/08/2006 4:15:40 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: Hildy
Name me one candidate Shrum worked for that acually WON an election?

might be why he is sitting this one out at MSNBC- no other offers.

13 posted on 03/08/2006 4:19:11 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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Oh No! If Shrum thinks the Dems won't do well in 2008, that's pretty much a guarantee they will.


14 posted on 03/08/2006 4:20:13 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Hildy
Name me one candidate Shrum worked for that acually WON an election?

Kerry won a few primaries if I recall correctly. Do these qualify as "elections"?.

Granted, Shrum's a major league loser in politics but he still has a lot of influence in Democratic party circles.

15 posted on 03/08/2006 4:22:10 PM PST by pjsbro
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“I doubt very much we’ll win the culture war by hiding in a foxhole and hope no one notices you and the things you believe ,"

Well they certainly can't win by telling people straight up the things that they believe:
higher taxes
euthanasia
abortion
socialized medicine
Government schools
love of dictators
hypocrisy
policing of the Internet
16 posted on 03/08/2006 4:22:40 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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None.


17 posted on 03/08/2006 4:24:14 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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Shrum said. Most Democrats are “too traumatized” and calculating, he said.

I need some sort of liberal decoder ring to understand what he is saying.

It makes no sense to me.

Shrum is just about the biggest loser there is running campaigns, so I hope they keep taking his advice, whatever it means

18 posted on 03/08/2006 4:24:25 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Howlin

thank you.


19 posted on 03/08/2006 4:28:06 PM PST by Hildy
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To: socialismisinsidious

Oh and don't forget , complete incremental elimination of the Second Amendment .


20 posted on 03/08/2006 4:29:16 PM PST by FRONTLINER ( Out with the RINO'S ! Defeat Mike DeWhine in the primary !)
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