There Is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentalities...

Middle East Media Research Institute ^ | 2/21/2006 | Arab-American psychologist Wafa Sultan

[Delta 21]

Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.

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Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?

Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.

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Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this issue, if you don't mind...

Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression......

[Delta 21]

This is a trascript of THIS VIDEO exchange. She is telling like it is.

Large Video file. Dial-up users beware.

[darkwing104]

Good post.

[Delta 21]

I found the trascript for you.

[Tai_Chung]

There Is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentalities...

I would take it a step further.
It is a clash between Good and Evil.

[Fred Nerks]

The Jews have come from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.

[proxy_user]

But if this is the case, it wouldn't be much of a war if we chose to fight all-out, would it?

Maybe that's why we're not bothering to fight all that hard.

[GSlob]

"The clash we are witnessing around the world is not ... a clash of civilizations. ... It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality..."
But each civilization is charaterized by its typical mentality. Indeed, it is precisely the difference between these mentalities which allows one to distinguish between the civilizations. Civilization could be defined as a sufficiently numerous, compact and cohesive sets of people possessing more or less similar [at least in its salient points] mentality and centered around it, over the period [millenia] such a mentality exists and [locally] predominates. Thus typical mentality IS a legitimate shorthand for its civilization.

[GSlob]

sets=set. A typo.

[CBart95]

Al Jezeera is the official news and propaganda medium of AlQueda and other terrorist organizations world wide.

It is foolish to entertain any notion that any scintilla of fair or honest discussion or information exchange might occur here.

All utterances are terrorist inspired hog wash and serve to further the Muslim extremists cause of all out murder of all infidels. This shameful, horrible presence should be eliminated immediately.

[BW2221]

Thanks for the link to the video. This lady has a lot of courage.

[manwiththehands]

I've been convinced of this and have believed it for years. This war is WWIV: Islam vs. civilization.

Not "Islamofascists". Not Islamic "extremists". Not "insurgents" Not Islamic "tribes". By sins of omission or commission our problem is Islam. Period. Islam vs. civilization.

And if our world leaders (starting with President Bush) don't come to this conclusion this war will eventually kill millions and drag on for decades.

And I'm not an "alarmist". :-)

[fso301]

But if this is the case, it wouldn't be much of a war if we chose to fight all-out, would it?

Most of the mohammedans having memory of falling off terrified camels as Allied and Axis forces slugged it out are dead. Their decendants, @sses blown full of smoke from their imams just don't understand.

[Capt. Tom]

That was a good clip. While watching it I had come to the conclusion she was a very eloquent Muslim heretic,a few frames later the camera goes to the Muslim who asks her if she is a heretic and condemns her.

Nothing wrong with being a heretic. But like most Muslim and Christian heretics they seem to want to cling to the religion, and want it to change to suit their beliefs.

Can't people just get out of a religion without trying to design another one to suit the times, and their idea of what the rules should be?

She did a good job of pointing out the problems with Islam and how other religions didn't behave as irrationally as Islamists in the way the Muslims interact with other non- Muslims..

But then again the Muslims assignment from God (Allah) isn't the same as yours. You have a different God you have a diferent assignment. In the meantime be prepared to defend yourself, family and country from Muslims.- tom

[Delta 21]

Al-Jazeera TV is one of many sources that are monitored by MEMRI TV.

MEMRI TV founded in February 1998 to inform the debate over U.S. policy in the Middle East, MEMRI is an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit, 501 (c)3 organization. MEMRI's headquarters is located in Washington, DC with branch offices in Berlin, London, Jerusalem, and Baghdad, and has a project active in Sweden. MEMRI research is translated to English, German, Hebrew, Italian, French, Spanish, and occasionally Turkish and Russian.

This woman making these claims on Al-Jazeera TV is definatly stirring the pot.

[Mind-numbed Robot]

I've been convinced of this and have believed it for years. This war is WWIV: Islam vs. civilization...... Not "Islamofascists". Not Islamic "extremists". Not "insurgents" Not Islamic "tribes". By sins of omission or commission our problem is Islam. Period. Islam vs. civilization.......And if our world leaders (starting with President Bush) don't come to this conclusion this war will eventually kill millions and drag on for decades.

Either you have a very short memory or you haven't been paying attention. Before we ever went into Afghanistan or Iraq, Bush said the same thing. He specifically said this war will last 30 years or longer.

All that may have gotten lost along the way with the media and the Democrats trying to obfuscate the issue but Bush said it from the beginning and he has conducted himself accordingly.

[CBart95]

Thank you for the information,Chief.

And your service to our country.

Only you know how tiny those little cutters are.

And how rough those seas can be.

Very reassuring that someone of your calibre is on watch with us.

[caryatid]

Thank you so very much!

[USF]

The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.

EVOLVE!

THE AGENDA OF ISLAM - A WAR BETWEEN CIVILIZATIONS

[kabar]

Bernard Lewis says the same thing in his book, What Went Wrong?: The Clash Between Islam and Modernity in the Middle East

[manwiththehands]

I don't see our fight against Islam as being as effective as it could be as long as we are kissing up to likes of UAE and calling Islam an "honorable" and "peaceful" religion, which Bush has done more than once.