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To: mathprof; Republicanprofessor; Sam Cree
I know that on FR tenure is often attacked. But, as a conservative professor, let me tell you: tenure is the only reason Mansfield and I have jobs. Take away tenure and do you really think liberal administrators and liberal faculty will keep those who manifest conservative tendencies around?

I can't be shut up. (Of course, administrators can find ways to squeeze a conservative.) And that is good for the school I am at--whether they like it or not.

So, if there was ever any chance that there might be a balance on campus, I would say tenure is not a good idea--but there isn't. Getting rid of tenure and the rules and regulations that accompany it would only make campuses more liberal than they are now and leave conservatives with no legal recourse.

McVey
5 posted on 03/04/2006 12:14:35 PM PST by mcvey
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To: mcvey
From the article:

Indeed, Mr. Mansfield continued with a mischievous smile, "He has apologized so much that he looks unmanly."

I am also reminded of Trent Lott trying to save his leadership position. He and Larry Summers have that in common. Had they the courage of their convictions rather than just the fearful desire to keep their jobs they would have fought their opponents on intellectual grounds rather than groveling in a pity pit. They had no chance of begging their way back in, the charges against them were ridiculous, so begging had no chance. Had they any testosterone at all they would have gone out fighting with heads held high.

The situation on today's campi is the result of a subversive drive to install an agenda, as you well know. When tenure was first proposed and adopted it was understood that all would be striving to achieve true academic excellence and that controversy should not be excluded from that.

Since the left has gained control academic excellence has given way to propaganda and controversy is not allowed.

The real qustion for all of us is, "What is the appeal of Communism that attracts so many academics to its fold?" We know their methods, their tactics, and how they accomplish what they do. But why do we allow it?

What is the appeal to journalists? The Communists have taken over our schools and the MSM. Why?

7 posted on 03/04/2006 12:41:40 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: mcvey

But isn't tenure the reason all those liberals are there in the first place?


10 posted on 03/04/2006 1:15:41 PM PST by MikeHu
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I agree. Tenure may be bad, but I suspect the lack of it would be worse.

Imagine a non-tenure situation with a decidedly leftist leadership. Who is going to express an opinion to the right of the leadership when none of the protections provided by tenure are present.

My vote would be "no one." To the extent that some do, it's a safe bet that it will be far fewer than in a tenure situation.


17 posted on 03/04/2006 2:51:06 PM PST by freespirited
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